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Bill

09-29-2003 20:13:43

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I have been looking for a tractor to mow C.R.P. ground with a 15 ft. rotary cutter. I was hoping to find a 85-100 h.p. tractor for this job.I recently came across a 9700 with 5100 hrs. in excellent cond. good paint, tires 85%, everything works including all gauges and lights, has dual power. Is this tractor too big ? Will it burn considerably more fuel than a smaller tractor? Should I keep looking for a smaller tractor? What might a 9700 be worth in this cond? thankyou

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John in SD

09-30-2003 18:39:17

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Re: 9700 Ford in reply to Bill, 09-29-2003 20:13:43

A 9700 would be just fine for what you want to do. CRP ground usually has heavy growth on it and would make a mower work hard. I have a 8600 and a 9600, both good tractors. Never been around a 9700 but I know they replaced the 9600 and are a comparable 130 hp and a much nicer modern cab. IMO, better to have excess HP than to constantly overload a smaller tractor.

My 8600 runs a 16' hydroswing in the summer and feeds bales in the winter. Used it on my JD 6' rotary mower and the tractor doesn't know the mower is back there powerwise. The 9600 has a 9' Waldon dozer and is also a winter chore tractor. I'm thinking you could probably buy that nice 9700 for $7-9K. If it is in the condition you say I would go for it.

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Bill

09-30-2003 18:52:57

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Re: Re: 9700 Ford in reply to John in SD, 09-30-2003 18:39:17

I can get the tractor for $8,600. All the 80-90 h.p tractors I have looked at are $10,000 and up and most are in not as good a shape. Do you think this is so big it will eat me up in fuel? Do you think parts are any concern? I would think parts would be available for quite some time on a 9700, your thoughts?

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Rod F

09-30-2003 19:12:32

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Re: Re: Re: 9700 Ford in reply to Bill, 09-30-2003 18:52:57

I would bet that fuel consumption would not be much higher that an 80 - 90 hp tractor. I know a guy that once had an 8000, and he says it burnt about the same amount of fuel, mabey even less than a 70 hp deere. Ford 401 engines were quite efficient. I doubt that parts would be at all hard to get. The best part, or the down side, depending on your perspective, is the purchase price / resale value. Old two wheel drive tractors over 100hp are dirt cheap. Maitenance will not be much more, and tires are probably about the same as on the smaller tractors too. Neither are enough to offset the lower purchase price, in my opinion. If the tractor is sound, I think it would be a go. And you might even find a cheaper one too, depending on the condition. I've seen Massey's at auctions, often in the 5 - 7 K (Cad) range. Sometimes 10 for a good one. Fords are seldom for sale around here. Good luck with your choice.

Rod

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10-01-2003 06:26:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: 9700 Ford in reply to Rod F, 09-30-2003 19:12:32

From what I've read and seen the 9--- is very simular to the Ford 8--- except for the turbocharger, bigger radiator, stronger rear end and other minor items.

Take off the turbo and you've got a 8700.

Never heard of someone removing a turbo like this before as most people want more HP not less.

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Rod F.

10-01-2003 19:59:01

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9700 Ford in reply to ., 10-01-2003 06:26:47

With the turbo, it should burn less fuel, to do the same work as an 8000, 86/8700. Work being theoretical, as in same power output. I am not aware if the 9600 is actually built heavier in the rear or not. I was always under the impression that they were the same as the 8600, as Ford liked to commonise parts as much as possible. That's the idea I had anyway.

Rod

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John in SD

10-02-2003 20:24:47

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 9700 Ford in reply to Rod F., 10-01-2003 19:59:01

One thing I like about the turbo is it seems to quiet the engine down, not so much diesel knock on the 9600 compared to my 8600.

I agree with the previous posts that you can get a bigger, more usable tractor cheaper than some of these smaller tractors.

It doesn't make sense to me at all that a silly little 8N (not knocking them now, I have one and it's a great little tractor) is a 50+ year old machine and will bring 2x+ what it cost new if it is painted up all pretty.

Then you take a tractor like a 9700 that is only half as old and 6x the HP with modern features the 8N didn't have at all (nice cab, maybe AC, live PTO, power steering, Dual Power) or only in their infancy (3 pt hitch, very crude hydraulics) has depreciated to half or a third of its new cost. Go figure.

The 8N was and is a good tractor for its time but it's just not enough tractor for what I need a tractor for nowdays.

I would bet that given the same load, a 5' rotary mower for example, the 9700 would probably use less fuel than the 8N. A 5' rotary would be a big load for an 8N and virtually nothing for the 9700.

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JDknut

09-30-2003 09:12:12

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Re: 9700 Ford in reply to Bill, 09-29-2003 20:13:43

Not sure what CRP ground is, but generally you can run a 15 foot cutter with about 1/2 to 2/3 the power of a 9700 which is a pretty big tractor. The State runs cutters that size with 45-65 PTO HP tractors. The bigger the tractor the more everything costs-fuel, maintenance, repairs, tires, etc. so there is something to be said for not having anything bigger than you need. Bigger tractors can have more problems on soft ground, lawns, etc, too. Fastline shows Ford 9700's for 10,000 to 13,500 dollars. just my $0.02

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