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Indydirtfarmer

09-09-2003 04:40:17




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A few days ago, there were a couple of post's about rotovators. There were good points brought out, and a few bad ones. Some people are pleased with the results, and some are not. All things being equal, I like mine. I have several "customers" that use my services. It makes me money! Yesterday made me reconsider. I was working up a lawn, at a new house construction. The yard was kept clean through-out the building of the house. There wasn't supposed to be anything in the ground, that would cause trouble. Famous last words! I had just got rolling. I heard a squealing sound, and looked back to see the slip-clutch smoking. I killed the PTO. What in the world was the problem? I raised the 3pt hitch. To my suprise, I found that someone had left a long piece of 1/2" re-bar laying in the yard. The 'dozer man had covered it up. It caught one of the tines, and started wrapping around the center shaft, untill it had wound so tight, it stopped the tines from moving. Never saw a thing. Never heard a thing. It made about 20 wraps around the center shaft. I spent the next 4 hours with a mini-grinder, and a cutting torch, trying to get all the "scrap iron" out of the tines. What fun! The end damage was one tine broken, and one operator very tired and bummed. No matter how carefull you are, these things are subject to damage from hidden objects. That is there biggest "weakness".

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Eldon

09-09-2003 21:41:09




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 Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2003 04:40:17  

I'd take rebar over rocks any day. I had a gal ask to till up a new garden for her....and I knew the area was rocky. I spent 4 hours with a rock bar and probe digging up rocks - some so big I had to roll them away. This was a 30' x 60' area. It took twenty minutes to till, but I found plenty of rocks that I had missed. That 1000# Howard was jumping over a foot in the air.....bad news....took out the bearing and seal on the drive side. I don't think it was worth the $180.

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Roy in UK

09-09-2003 23:25:08




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 Re: Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Eldon, 09-09-2003 21:41:09  
I once saw a rotovator in a farmers yard with snapped half of the tractors P.T.O. shaft still in the rotovator's P.T.O. yoke. I know that rotovators are fitted with a slip clutch, but I shudder to think what had caused that to happen. Maybe the clutch had been way over tightened.



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Robert in W. Mi

09-09-2003 12:21:41




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 Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2003 04:40:17  
When you rotavate all the time like i do, you just take it in stride.

Last week i was rotavateing logging roads. I hit rocks as big or bigger than ever before. The rotavator junmped clean out of the ground several times!! I was at this place two partial days, and i broke 2 tines. No big deal, i brought home $477.00.

One time i rotavated a place that should have been called "the rock farm" !! Every hill was sand, and when you'd get to the bottom of the hill it was pure clay!!! Then there was the rocks, and more rocks!! The guy felt bad as it was tough going all day!!

When i was leaveing he and his buddy came over and said they had 10 acres of muck ground (peat beds) that they wanted rotavated. It was a ways away, and i said i really didn't want to drive that far. He said, he'd pay millage, and it was such "easy going" it would "make up for" all the rocks on his place. As i was loading, and they kept talking, i finally agreed to do go the following week.

When i got there, it was just as they described, so i unloaded and got going. All went well for about 10 mins., then i hit a big rock!! Next it was a huge picture window, the glass flew all over out behind!! A little further and i hit a 1-1/2" galv. 5' piece of pipe that locked the tines up!! I bitc*ed about that as i pulled it out, and got going again!! After about 100' i hit another that locked it again!!!

Before the day was over i found 5 pieces of pipe, and a huge piece of foundation!! There was a fair amount of rocks, and even some stumps!! Finally i got down to the last 2 or 3 rounds and a huge electrical storm came, and i just barely got off the field because of the down pouring rain!!

I ended up haveing to replace the drive line slip clutch plates after that job, but i don't remember breaking any tines???

Like i said, you just have to take them all in stride!! Robert

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Trevor

09-09-2003 11:56:40




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 Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2003 04:40:17  
Glad to hear your Rotovator wasn't too damaged.

Flail mowers are fun to get into wire and twine as well. I cut roadsides for the county and got into both. The crappy thing about the twine is that you can wrap up about a mile of it before you even realize it. They use twine to guide the paver when they pave the road. They then leave it and put shoulder gravel over it. Well 3 years later it surfaces and gets into your mower. Spent a few hours cuttin twine.

When I hit the page wire I had to go back to the shop and get the torches goin.

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Mike D.

09-09-2003 10:47:34




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 Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2003 04:40:17  
Darn impressive that there was no more damage to the rotovator. Glad you could get it fixed as easily as you did. Could have been much worse. I'd love to own a Howard to pull behind my Ollie 1850



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ShepFL

09-09-2003 08:44:27




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 Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2003 04:40:17  
While I would like to own a 3pth tiller I don't at this time. Kick myself in the arse everytime I think of it. Had a chance to buy a 6' model, make unknown for $75. Worked fine and fella even let me use it for a couple days. I just did not recognize the value until after I passed on the deal.

Hindsight is 20-20. Regardless your troubles reminded me of a time when I was bushhoggin my property lines. I was told no fences ever exisisted on the place. I even walked the boundaries before running my rig thru there.

Murphy's law applies - bushhogged right down to the ground only to find the old, old, old fence. Those blades turning at 540 RPM "SNATCHED" that old hog wire from the posts and promptly wrapped it around my stump jumper and blades. About the time I recognized what the racket was in the brush behind me and the squealing I had nearly 100 ft. of wire wound up under the bush hog.

Drove home and spent the next few hrs. just as you did with torch, vice grips and cutoff wheel removing wire. For the balance of that field I called in Forest Service and had them burn it off. Once burned me and the boys cleaned up all the trash. We now have a clean field.

Still kicking myself in the arse about the tiller. . .

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Roy in UK

09-09-2003 06:32:02




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 Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-09-2003 04:40:17  
I suppose it makes a change from barbed wire plastic water pipe,polythene sheeting and baler twine!!! (had all that)



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CWL

09-09-2003 08:24:11




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 Re: Re: More Rotovator talk in reply to Roy in UK, 09-09-2003 06:32:02  
And people say that change is a good thing. Here is proof positive against that saying!



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