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Don E. Foster

08-18-2003 07:32:26




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How serious of a sin is it to use starter fluid on a JD Model D???? Or any other tractor??? Thanks




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no biggie

08-21-2003 12:48:34




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
just a sniff or so, no big blasts...

My 580C and Dresser TD7e wont start without
it when cold...



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Randy

08-19-2003 05:58:13




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
I have heard all the horor stories about starting fluid and don't believe any of it. I have been starting a 1971 JD model 56 lawnmower every time since 1988 with a shot of starting fluid into the air cleaner and its still running good and starts on the first pull. Most new starting fluids have lubricants in them.



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REDMAN

08-18-2003 21:29:39




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
make sure if you need it you buy good either,jd i think still has the highest either content.give small sniffs not big blasts,we use about 2 cases a summer in 2 tractors and have had no problems with it so far,but we have no way to fix them to start easy.i would probably look to see what the problem is before useing alot of starting fluid.



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buickanddeere

08-18-2003 21:11:10




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
Bore/piston/ring wear from stripping oil off. Broken rings, crushed ring lands, cracked pistons and pouned bearings from the detonation's pressure spikes.



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Don LC

08-18-2003 21:06:54




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
Starter fluid is a great parts cleaner....I use it to clean small parts before painting.....



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Rod F.

08-18-2003 20:38:16




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
Ether tends to be hard on an engine, but less damage is done if a proper injector is used, and not just the can in the breather. Ether strips oil off the cylinders, drying them down, and creating friction. It is best to fix the underlying problem, rather than use ether. Personally, I prefer to use a block heater in winter, but I do use a shot if it's -25C and I only have one chance....but it's not good. I hate using the stuff if at all possible. I use ether more for drying oil off parts before applying loctite then I do for starting.

Rod

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Jim Handke

08-18-2003 20:28:06




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
Starter Fluid can be deadly on cast iron pistons in a diesel. Never tried it on an old gas tractor.



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Rod (NH)

08-18-2003 07:59:35




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 Re: Starter fluid in reply to Don E. Foster, 08-18-2003 07:32:26  
Hi Don,

I assume you are talking a diesel here. IMO it is not a serious sin if you use it in moderation and only when needed. Do not combine it with other aids such as glow plugs or electric air intake heaters.

If you find yourself needing such an assist in "normal" ambient temperatures (or with gasoline engines), it is time to investigate the cause and correct it properly.

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paul

08-18-2003 12:47:46




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 Re: Re: Starter fluid in reply to Rod (NH), 08-18-2003 07:59:35  
In a cold climate, it can be a necessary evil. :)

Starting fluid explodes rapidly, while diesel fuel builds up pressure more slowly & evenly. Too much SF can damage an engine, but in cold weather, ya gotta use some or plug the engine in.

If you always need it, then something isn't right & I would try to fix that. Constant SF use would be bad.

--->Paul



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