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Jay

08-13-2003 20:07:39




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Recently acquired 30 acres. Run a hay meadow and some cows. It was suggested to me that a Ford 3000 or Massey 135 would be sufficient to keep up the place. I will contract my hay cutting and rolling but moving the rolls cost extra.
Will either of the above tractors move a "large" roll of hay?
If not, any recommendations(diesel please)




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Phil in MS

08-14-2003 06:30:16




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 Re: Massey or Ford? in reply to Jay, 08-13-2003 20:07:39  
Jay,

I have a MF255 and like it very well. The MF165 is a very good choice along with a 4000 or 5000 series Ford. If you plan to move a great deal of hay say with 5x5 rolls or larger go with the 165 or 4000. These will cost about the same as the 2 tractors you mentioned for the same reasons others have already stated. Now if you really want the smaller tractors and will only move a few bales the others haven't mentioned but I will a hay caddy or dolly that will hook to your draw bar or pickup bumper. There is a "Tumble Bug" that will run about $800 to $1,000 new and these units do work well. Since they are caddies they don't stress your lift system. Since you have 30 acres and if you only want or can afford one tractor I would try to get a MF255 or 165 or a Ford 4000 or 4600. Good luck.

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Indydirtfarmer

08-14-2003 05:43:53




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 Re: Massey or Ford? in reply to Jay, 08-13-2003 20:07:39  
Jay, either one of those tractors can move A round bale, but I wouldn't try to move hundreds of them. They are a bit lightweigh for that kind of use. Both are good tractors. The Massey Ferguson 135 is the best "little" tractor ever built. (This is coming from someone who bleeds green) For a few bucks more, you could get a bigger tractor. MF 165's sell for about the same as 135's. You need something with more hydraulic lift power than the 135 or 3000. Your investment will be "safer" if you get a tractor that will hold up to heavier use. That 135 won't be worth much with the 3 pt. not working. The smaller tractors are dis-proportionatley expensive becouse of all the demand for small "garden" tractors. I would look for something in the 50 to 60 h.p. range, and around 6000 lbs. or heavier. Better too big, than too small. Good luck, Bill

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Roy B

08-14-2003 05:16:28




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 Re: Massey or Ford? in reply to Jay, 08-13-2003 20:07:39  
Jay,
Both the 3000 and the 135 are very good small general purpose tractors.Both have relativly light front axles for heavy loader work. Small rolls say, 4x4, of hay should be ok to move with a loader. Larger rolls of hay or rolls of silage will have to be moved on the three point hitch. You might want to look at a 4 or 5000 Ford, 165 Massey or the red or green equivalent. Lots of accidents happen moving round bales, stay safe. Roy

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Jim Handke

08-14-2003 05:11:21




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 Re: Massey or Ford? in reply to Jay, 08-13-2003 20:07:39  
Around here, our bales weigh 2000 lbs. Either tractor mentioned doesn't have a lift system heavy enough to stand up to that weight. If your using one of the smaller balers, lifting lighter bales, then they might work. My smallest tractor for moving hay is a Case 830. The neighbors use IH 656's, JD 3020's, and we go up from there.



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Farmer John

08-14-2003 00:42:43




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 Re: Massey or Ford? in reply to Jay, 08-13-2003 20:07:39  
Forget the Ford and Massey and go with a IH or Farmall. More tractor for less money. 706 would fit the bill



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Jay

08-14-2003 18:14:31




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 Re: Re: Massey or Ford? in reply to Farmer John, 08-14-2003 00:42:43  
To answer "Nebraska Cowman" I intend to move (5' or 6' rolls) the hay off my fields as well as to pasture for feed. I do expect it to be a one tractor operation.
I'm in East Texas. I can expect two to four cuttings of thirtyfive to forty rolls from my hay meadow but I expect to cut that back to open more pasture.



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Nebraska Cowman

08-14-2003 04:33:46




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 Re: Re: Massey or Ford? in reply to Farmer John, 08-14-2003 00:42:43  
Now john, don't steer the guy wrong, he don't need a 706 for 30 acres. he needs something HANDY. a good all around tractor. He didnt say what he needed to move the bales for. Will you be feeding the hay, jay? or do you need to just move it off the field? I'd think the tractors you mentioned would move a bale on the 3 point but you might have to add weight to the front end.



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