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Modification to Bush Hog

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Russ

07-31-2003 12:19:25




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I have a new six foot Woods bush hog. I will be using it mostly for cutting grass. I was thinking of installing two caster wheels on the front (in the same track as the tractor tires) of the hog. This will allow me to cut grass without “scalping” the ground. I can adjust it for a 2 inch clearance. My problem is that with a three point hitch and unleveled ground, I drag the edges (skids) of the hog on the ground which rips up the grass. Has anyone done this before?

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Rob

08-08-2003 22:08:24




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
I have a 10' foot pull type and it digs the runners underground evryonce and a while, I am working on modifying to, so far it is great



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max

08-02-2003 13:31:54




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
Russ
I installed a rigid front axle,with 6.5 inch tires that were on a lawn trailer, on the front of my brushhog, I call it my landing gear. Totally adjustable, with the brush hog in the up position, I stand on my axle to adjust the height.
Didn't cost anything to make, and works like a charm.



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Robert in W. Mi

08-01-2003 14:22:42




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
I have front casters on one of my Woods rotary cutters. I bought everything to do so from Woods, and installed them myself. They work good "If" the ground is farily hard, and there isn't too much trash. When the ground is soft, they sink in, or dig the ground up, if there's limbs or other trash it sometimes gets caught on the wheels.

I wouldn't want them on my cutter "IF" i only had one rotary cutter, but i only use this cutter where it works fairly well.

What a rotary cutter really needs is two tail wheels to control the "dipping" of the rear corners on the hog when you turn!! When i buy my next cutter, I'm going to pay the extra to get that extra tail wheel.

BTW, long ago most of the Land Pride rotary cutters came with front and rear wheels like a finish mower.

Robert

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RayP(MI)

08-01-2003 17:52:14




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 Re: Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Robert in W. Mi, 08-01-2003 14:22:42  
I was mowing off a friend's pasture field this afternoon, thinking right along the lines of what Robert above did. Even limiting the cylinder throw to make the hog float, didn't prevent it from scalping or dragging, occasionally. Mine's so old I need to replace the angle iron skids on it, so previous users weren't real successful in keeping it out of the dirt either. More important than the skids, were the blades, which I had to have custom made, because new aren't available. I would think that a couple of the rubber segmented wheels like they sell for brush hog rear mounting could be mounted on some sort of an axle across the front of the hog. As long as you're carrying the mower most of the time, it might not be necessary to have them swivel! Sure would like to keep the blades out of the dirt and stones.

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Chris-se-ILL

08-01-2003 08:20:24




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
I just bought a "Wallace" brand bushhog type mower and I let the skids drag (dig) if they want to do so (the ruts always grow back). I bought it for mowing rough pasture style ground, but I also mow grass access roadways. It does a good job on both.

I know that a brush style mower is cheaper that a finishing mower (I would love to have a finishing mower to put behind my little IH 284... but I can't part with the extra money that it would take).

If you want to put castors on the brush mower, then just do it! You won't know till you try it. Just be VERY careful and be as safe as you possibly can! Once you modify the mower... you have no warranty, and the manufacturer is not liable for any mistakes that might and probably will happen! And you could very possibly incur injury... to yourself... and to others! These brush mowers were not designed for what you want to try.

The only question that "YOU" have to answer is... Are a few gouges and scrapes "worth the risks" involved??? ...No one here can really answer that, for you!!!

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Mike (WA)

08-01-2003 08:19:46




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
I've found that I've become pretty good at adjusting the 3 point "on the fly"- it becomes automatic after awhile- when the front of the tractor goes up, lift the 3 point, and vice versa. You have to respond to the front wheels, not the rears, to have enough time to make the adjustment. You still get a few scalps, but like the others said, if you're using a bush hog, you're probably not going to get a pretty enough job to take to the fair anyhow.

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Paul B.

08-04-2003 09:21:52




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 Re: Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Mike (WA), 08-01-2003 08:19:46  
I used limiting chains to stop the scalping. Plus when I lower the bush hog I dont have to worry if I got it to the right height. I use a piece of chain for my top link as well. As for the limiting chains I took 2 lengths of chain attached them to the top link on the tractor and then used a keyhole slot for adjustment or you can do this the other way around. I found that 2 chains are better to get a more level cut this has cured most of my problems.

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Willie J

08-01-2003 06:14:05




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
For my uses, quick & dirty, I would let it scalp. After a few cuttings the high spots will be gone, then no more scalping.
Willie



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Richard Fazio

08-01-2003 06:02:43




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
I have what Nolan discribes. We modified the hog and put heavy skids on both sides in the front. Wider than stock. It helps. I still dig in sometimes but it's a lot better. I mainly did it cause I wore the original skids out on my JD hog. I like the grass short.



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dave

08-01-2003 05:24:51




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
Use a set of limiter chains. This is the best invention yet. adjustable from 0- 24 inches. Sold at local TSC stores. Dave..... ..



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Trevor

08-01-2003 05:20:11




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
Bus Driver hit the nail on the head. What you want and what you have are 2 differnt things. You wan ta finish mower that can give you a flat finished cut without much scalping and can be set to any height right down to 1". What you ahev is a brush hog that was meant to be used in feilds and for giving a rough cut.

There is a reason that both exist, it is because they are different.



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Nolan

08-01-2003 03:27:32




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
I think you'd just tear the castors off.

What might work would be to modify the skids so they are curved up on the sides and thereby slide over the ground instead of digging into the ground.



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stan

08-01-2003 01:13:01




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
I have installed front wheels on a 5 ft mower, the problem I found was it was very hard to adjust for different fields. It seamed like I was always fixing a flat tire. I used wheels and bearings from a old JD disc. That model used small wheels and installed fairly easy. I have a 6 ft woods mower now with out wheels.



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paul

07-31-2003 23:58:17




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
Well, if it's that rough a ground, why care about a few scalps & scrapes? That's the point of a brush hog - fast & dirty.

--->Paul



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Bus Driver

07-31-2003 16:38:44




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 Re: Modification to Bush Hog in reply to Russ, 07-31-2003 12:19:25  
If it was my situation, I would just buy a finish mower. I see no way to make a good finish mower from the "brush" cutter. They are just very different animals.



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