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ewk AL

07-19-2003 13:24:24




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I have been bush hogging in high grass when the temperature is around 90 degrees. Sometimes after about an hour, steam comes out of the radiator. Is this an indication that the radiator needs some work or is it simply too hot to push the tractor for a long period of time. I can put a 70/30 antifreeze/water mixture in the radiator if necessary instead of the normal 50/50.




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Tom

07-22-2003 14:18:15




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 Re: tractor overheating in reply to ewk AL, 07-19-2003 13:24:24  
Before anything else, be sure your ground speed is not too fast for the chore. In thick grass, and with the extra hp drained by the cutter, you can lug the engine. Even with a healthy cooling system, you may over heat. Anything above 50/50 will make you over heat more..



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Bob in SC

07-20-2003 20:50:06




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 Re: tractor overheating in reply to ewk AL, 07-19-2003 13:24:24  
Take out the old thermostat, replace the water hose, put in water and check for free flow. If you have free flow, the thermostat is to blame. This also tells you that the water pump and radiator is working. If you do not have a good flow or no flow check the water pump and then the radiator.

If your tractor is old and the radiator has never been cleaned, it would be a good idea to do so. Could save a warped head and an empty pocket book.

Never run your tractor without a thermostat. It's there for a reason, to maintain proper operating temperature in all types of temperatures. You will overheat in hot weather and engine will not heat up properly in the winter without one. When you have a overheating problem, always check the coolant first, thermostat, water pump and then radiator. Could save yourself a lot of money by checking the most obvious first.

Good Luck. (Never,Never,Never take of the cap on a boiling radiator).

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Chas in Tn.

07-19-2003 21:53:56




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 Re: tractor overheating in reply to ewk AL, 07-19-2003 13:24:24  
These guys have pretty much covered it, I'll add...Is your temp hand working? What about the water pump? Take your cap off,(engine cold) then start your tractor, and make sure water if flowing. Are you adding coolant? How much? Are you using a good pressurized cap? No collapsed hoses? Sometimes these old hoses come apart inside and restrict the flow of coolant. Thermostat is in place and working? Cat makes an excellent flush, also Permatex, follow directions. Probally wont hurt to do this anyway. No white smoke from the exaust? Engine head problems here! Hope you get it cooled down. Chas

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wdTom

07-19-2003 18:32:48




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 Re: tractor overheating in reply to ewk AL, 07-19-2003 13:24:24  
Well how hot is the engine? If you don't know stick an oven thermometer in the top of the radiator and find out. 200 degrees is ok, maybe up to 220 is ok. I wouldn't want to be running much hotter than that I don't think. You didn't say what tractor it is though.



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Deas Plant.

07-20-2003 12:32:43




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 Re: Re: tractor overheating in reply to wdTom, 07-19-2003 18:32:48  
Hi, All. I certainly would NOT be following wdTom's advice if it were my tractor or vehicle. Firstly, there are very few unpressurised cooling systems left running these days and taking the cap off of a pressurised system while it is hot is a recipe for extensive skin grafts unless you are very careful. On top of this, removing the cap and/or releasing the pressure causes an immediate drop in the boiling point because the more pressure you have within the system the higher the boiling temperature.

Likewise running the tractor without the cap so that you can stick a thermometer in the top of the radiator is going to give an unrealistic result on anything but a totally unpressurised system.

Secondly, 200 deg. F. would be O.K. but since the boiling point of unpressurised water at sea level is 212 deg. F., running to 220 deg. is highly likely to result in a massive outflow not only of water from your cooling system but also of dollars from your bank account.

Incidentally, as I understand it, the higher the altitude at which you are working, the lower the boiling point, unless you have a pressurised cooling system.

BTW ewk, one other thing to check would be that your tractor's thermostat is working. You can do this by dropping the thermostat into a pot of boiling water and watching for several minutes to see if opens as it heats up.

Hope you find a solution.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Deas Plant.

07-19-2003 15:06:59




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 Re: tractor overheating in reply to ewk AL, 07-19-2003 13:24:24  
Hi, ewk. Long grass, huh? You may want to check your radiator core to see if it is blocked with grass and 'chaff', etc.. If it is blocked, you can blow it out with compressed air or water.

You can slow down the build-up of this debris within the core by placing a sheet of fine metal insect screen in front of the radiator and REGULARLY scraping off the build-up of trash from it. You may quite surprised at the amount of stuff that collects there. And how quickly.

Failing that, one of the more common causes of over-heating amongst older tractors and vehicles is simply that the tubes in the raditor become partially or even totally clogged with corrosion scale, chemical deposits from the water that has been put into it, stuff like Bars Leaks, pepper, Chemi-Weld etc., that has been put into it to 'cure' various problems or, in the case of one 'corrosion inhibitor' which appeared BRIEFLY on the market DownUnder, the corrosion inhibitor or anti-freeze itself.

Another cause can be oxidisation of the metal of the core itself. This puts a fine coating of oxidised metal between the metal and the passing air and can severely restrict the metal's ability to pass heat to the air. If most of the paint is gone from your radiator core and/or you can see any fine, often white, powder around the core or the soldered joints of the tanks, this may well be your problem, or at least part of it.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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