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John Deere 2440 vs. round bales

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John Fugit

07-09-2003 04:05:11




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I use a JD2440 (60HP) with a 327 square baler. It's time to upgrade. I am wanting to start round baling. Most of our ground is relatively flat, but have a few hills. I know that will make some difference. We grow alfalfa, and some mixed grasses. I will still use the square bailer for the hay we sell, and can pick and choose what and where I bail with the round bailer.
My question is, does anyone have any experience with a round bailer and this size tractor? What bailer(and size bail) would work with this tractor? I don't want to go to a bigger tractor for cost reasons. The 2440 has less than 1700 hrs, and is in great condition. I will have to move the bails with a 3 pt. bail spear, as I don't have a loader that would lift that kind of weight. Just as a point of reference, I will most likely bail about 100 to 125 bails a year.
OK guys, let's hear your thoughts. Thanks, Bill

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Mike

07-10-2003 10:28:58




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
I pull a John Deere 510 and make 5' x 5 1/2' bales with a 45 horse John Deere 5105. No problem on flat ground. Front end gets pretty light moving them with a bale spear though.



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Kermit in SW MO

07-10-2003 01:41:19




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
I use my JD 5105 (40 HP) to pull a NH 845 chain type round baler and have no problem whatsoever. It does make the smaller big round bales. Can't remember the measurements of the bales. I use a stinger mounted on the 3 point hitch to move the bales with. Works just fine.



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red-n-green

07-09-2003 18:42:02




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
I pulled a gehl 1875 5X6 baler with a 3010D for about half the summer last year. The pump is turned up and probably has about 60 to 65 PTO HP. Alittle tuff on the hills when I was rolling a full 5X6 roll.

Jay



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rhudson

07-09-2003 11:21:35




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
i was probably pushing a tractor more than you fellows. for years i pulled a NH 849 5 x5 with a 1020 JD, 38 horsepower. we're in the rolling foot hills. i had to plan to be going down hill with a near full chamber. no damp hay. but like others have said, i had to do it till i could find a tractor in my price range.



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John Fugit

07-09-2003 10:58:13




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
WOW! I ask for a few responses,and get a bunch. I never knew so many of you guys would be looking in on a week-day. I think that I'm going to look at a 4X5 Vermeer bailer. I have a dealer with-in a mile of the house, and he'll let me use a loaner, to see if I like it. Thanks for all the help. And to the guy that lost his tractors to an ex, just be patient, I went through the same thing, about 5 years ago, and now I have my "inventory" back to normal, and my life is better than ever.

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James in NC

07-09-2003 11:28:03




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 Re: Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 10:58:13  
The Vermeer 5400 Rebel baler would be a great match for that tractor. We are a dealer in NC and have had lots of sucess with that baler.

James



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wolfy

07-09-2003 08:09:16




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
Have been baling about 300 round 4 by 5, really 4 by 5 & 1/2 (M&W 1500 baler) using a 3010 (Deere says 59.5 hp which means 47 hp at 2100 rpm) on Pa hills for the last 8 yrs. No problem power wise.



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Roy in UK

07-09-2003 08:01:53




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
A variable chamber machine e.g. JD 550 Yes
A fixed chamber Claas 44 or 62 No Way!

I ran a JD 550 on a 78 hp Renault up hill and down dale without a murmur. I also had a Claas 62 5X4 fixed chamber and the same tractor just began to growl as the chamber was getting full going up steep hills. My neighbour had a Claas 44 (4X4 fixed) and he ran it behind a 75hp MF 690 and it used to "cough its guts out"

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Trevor

07-09-2003 07:18:35




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
We had a C/IH (New Idea just pained and sold by C/IH) 4' high by 5' long soft core baler and we could pull if with a 55 Hp tractor. We usually used a 80 Hp Massey siply because we could but in a pinch we could run it with a smaller tractor. This was in alfalfa and on fairly flat land.



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Gary in TX

07-09-2003 06:26:13




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
Well John,
I have pulled my John Deere 530 round baler with my 3020 John Deere which is only 5 horses bigger(as stated in the books). It pulled it pretty good as long as it wasn't to hilly. I had no choice on this matter as I only had that tractor left due to an ex wife. I know you could pull a 430 without any problems I believe. If its for your own use I would go with the 430 and that would make it easier on the tractor and still roll you a good bale. Around our neck of the woods the Deere balers are king although there is others running around.

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Craig M

07-09-2003 05:40:58




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
I pull a 648 New Holland baler with a 60 horse tractor (M6030 Kubota) and have baled about 1100 bales this year with no problems. On hilly land I usually shift down a gear. And I am baling mostly grass hay. I had a 848 New Holland before I traded to the 648 and it was a little easier to pull. The 648 makes a 4 X 5 bale so you should be able to pull a baler that size with out any problems. And they should be no problem for your three point hithch either.

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Woodbeef

07-09-2003 05:05:00




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
A 4x5 hard core should be no problem. In soft core probably 4x4.



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Rauville

07-09-2003 04:39:26




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
For our horse hay we use a Gehl 1310 round baler behind an old 730 Case Diesel. The Gehl is a drum type (no belts or chains) that makes a nice 5 x 5, 800#, star center bale that is easy to handle. In the years that we have used it, we have had no problems. The only problem is finding one that is for sale...they were higher priced when new, and apparently didn't sell as well as the belt type balers.

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Rauville

07-09-2003 04:53:55




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 Re: Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to Rauville, 07-09-2003 04:39:26  
Opps!...That size was meant to be 4 x 5. Nice size to haul on a car trailer. We fit 11 on a load.



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Mike Ky

07-09-2003 11:07:27




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 Re: Re: Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to Rauville, 07-09-2003 04:53:55  
We use a vermeer baler that makes a 6 by 5 bale and requires a 70 horsepower tractor. Our tractor is a Massey Ferguson gas that only has about 45 horsepower. This was causing too much pull on the tractor. The vermeer dealer sold me some disk to install in the baler ( 1 bolt ) it reduced the friction of the sides of the bale when it turns over in the baler. I make 6 foot bales with no problem going up ky hills.Before the side disk installation I couldn't climb a hill while making a 4 foot bale. They disk were created to bale sileage but they worked wonders for us. sorry this is s long Mike Ky

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James in NC

07-09-2003 04:28:55




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 Re: John Deere 2440 vs. round bales in reply to John Fugit, 07-09-2003 04:05:11  
4 ft. wide 5ft. diameter would work good.
a 5x5 bale would be on the top limit but could probably work for you on flat land.



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