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James

06-01-2003 19:52:41

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Can I mow 10-15 acres of thorny locust which ranges from 2-12 feet tall without having hundreds of thorns puncturing my rear tractor tires?

I've never had one puncture a rear tractor tire. I've had them in every other type of tire. Just wondering how likely are they to also puncture the rears if I mow that much of them?

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Gary in TX

06-02-2003 07:09:37

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Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruining my in reply to James, 06-01-2003 19:52:41

I would say that before you got done you would be running on the rims. A dozer, crawler, or old steel wheeled tractor would work? I have a spot kinda like that but only a couple acres and I have a friend who has a small crawler that I might talk too about getting into it??? May just plow a fire ring and burn the whole 2 acres???? Still thinking. I would say you would be looking at a full set of tires and tubes before you get done.

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Bob

06-02-2003 07:01:24

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Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruining my in reply to James, 06-01-2003 19:52:41

How big a diameter trunk does a 12-ft Locust have? I'm not sure my hog would cut one that big....

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James

06-02-2003 15:54:30

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Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruinin in reply to Bob, 06-02-2003 07:01:24

When I looked at the field, I was looking more at the diameter of the bases than at the height of the trees. I'm guessing at the height from memory. The bases were mostly 2 inch or less. I have a 7 foot pull type, and didn't see too many I couldn't cut.

I will probably not cut them based on the responses I've recieved here. I was just excited about the $40/hr I was going to get for mowing.

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bob

06-02-2003 22:33:26

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Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ru in reply to James, 06-02-2003 15:54:30

With new or nearly new tire, you should have no problems whatsoever, as black locust has fairly short thorns. We are plagued in the East with Autumn Olive & its inch-long thorns, but they wont penetrate new rear tires but will puncture new front tires on 4wd. But I hog that sized locust all the time with completely worn out tires with no problems. Maybe you would feel safer with tire chains; they definitely would help.

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thurlow

06-03-2003 06:01:01

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust withou in reply to bob, 06-02-2003 22:33:26

Can't really tell from his description, but I suspect he's dealing with honey locust, i.e. "thorn", rather than black locust. The honey locust will definitely penetrate back tires and as others have suggested, cutting them off without using a chemical on the 'stumps' will just lead to additional problems; where there was one tree this year, he'll have multiple sprouts next year..... .....

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Inspector

06-28-2003 06:51:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust wi in reply to thurlow, 06-03-2003 06:01:01

Wow! The thorns are terrible. It is a bad job but I used a chain saw, cut off all the Thorny Locust and immediately (I mean right now) coated the stumps with a 50-50 mix of 2/4-D and Diesel Fuel. That is supposed to kill the roots. I drag the top parts into one pile (I mean right now, so the thorns don't come off) and then I can later burn them!

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Miss Grundy

06-02-2003 03:34:07

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Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruining my in reply to James, 06-01-2003 19:52:41

It would be best to borrow a tractor for this job.

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Craig

06-02-2003 11:58:17

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Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruinin in reply to Miss Grundy, 06-02-2003 03:34:07

I gurantee you will have thorns in your tires. Another thing to remember--after mowing them off if you don't treat the stumps with Tordon you'll just have thorny bushes next year.

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Brian

06-02-2003 13:31:18

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Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ru in reply to Craig, 06-02-2003 11:58:17

If you are getting a dozer anyway- I'd have the operator shear them off & push into a burn pile. Follow the dozer along with a sprayer & hit the exposed area right after being sheared off. Thorns will be a problem for years if they are thrown all over by a bushhog.

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paul

06-02-2003 05:09:30

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Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruinin in reply to Miss Grundy, 06-02-2003 03:34:07

Sounds like Scott Green would have one to loan out..... ;)

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Scott Green

06-03-2003 02:47:13

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Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ru in reply to paul, 06-02-2003 05:09:30

Not any more! Other than one other person I can think of , I don't loan anything out. Every time I use to loan anything out , it would never ever come back the same. I had gotten tired of it. Some things never come back. The borrower would eventually have there name etched into it.

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paul

06-03-2003 08:24:40

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust withou in reply to Scott Green, 06-03-2003 02:47:13

I'm a farmer in Minnesota, and I own an old car-hauler trailer. It is not licenced (farmer-exemption, don't need it if it's _always_ for your own farm use, within 150 miles of the farm) and many of my friends have told me I should get that thing licensed.

Wonder why I never get around to that????? ;) The more people mention it to me, the more it seems to slip my mind..... ;)

--->Paul

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Kelly C

06-04-2003 09:40:17

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust wi in reply to paul, 06-03-2003 08:24:40

Is that true paul? You dont need to lic in MN if for farm use?
How do they difine a farm? I am building a 16 car hauler to bring stuff back from farm auctions and deliver hay and stuff.

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Scott Green

06-02-2003 02:03:21

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Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruining my in reply to James, 06-01-2003 19:52:41

James , years ago , a neighbor wanted to borrow one of my tractors for brush hogging his land. I got the tractor back with a blown engine , and rear tires full of thorns , but not flat. About 5 years or so later , one of the rears went flat. I believe it was a thorn which worked through.

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JD70Jim

06-01-2003 22:12:43

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Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruining my in reply to James, 06-01-2003 19:52:41

Something else can ruin your day too! Those thorny locust trees will leave some faily SHARP litttle stumps---and one of those can leave a LOT bigger hole in a rear tire than the locust thorns can. I know, because I've been there.

Too bad the best way to get rid of thorny locusts is to use a small, agricultural CRAWLER, with 3ph and live pto. The tracks just don't seem to get flat when they run over sharp thorns!

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Ben in kY

06-01-2003 19:56:12

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Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruining my in reply to James, 06-01-2003 19:52:41

Punctures in the rear are not as common as with the front "baloon" tires but can/will occur.

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SHANNON BONE

06-01-2003 23:51:02

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Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ruinin in reply to Ben in kY, 06-01-2003 19:56:12

its almost like running over a tree with nails on it. you might get flat or not , a risk to take.. i had some around here they were barely 2 inches wide and i just backed up and keep grinding until i see nothing , try backing up backwards... watch out for wood spliters , wooo! they sure fly outta of bushhog! have safe cutting...

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Ray,IN

06-02-2003 20:57:14

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Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust without ru in reply to SHANNON BONE, 06-01-2003 23:51:02

When you do get thorns in your rears, consider the dense foam "donuts" designed for industrial equipment. They replace the inner tube and use no air pressure. They are large enough to fill the tire and still mount it on a rim. The ride is firm, but- no more flats!

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SHANNON BONE

06-02-2003 23:41:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Can I bushhog Thorny Locust withou in reply to Ray,IN, 06-02-2003 20:57:14

neato... but i need water ballast for weight and tractions.. i have '49 massey harris 44... so far no flat at all.... how did they put that stuff in that tires?

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