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ryan

03-10-2002 17:14:29




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did allis chalmber ever put a diesel engine in a lawn tractor? If so what brand? and if not did any lawn tractors have diesel engines?




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WTW

03-12-2002 12:32:17




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 Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to ryan, 03-10-2002 17:14:29  
ryan, I have a John Deere 332 diesel. It is basically the 318 tractor with a 16 HP, three cylinder, water cooled Yanmar diesel engine. I would recommend this tractor to anyone with a lawn and garden tractor need. It replaced my 317 (17 HP twin Kohler) that would burn one tank of gas to mow my yard once and now I mow the same yard 5 times on the same amount of diesel fuel. To tell a home owner not to buy one of these is telling me this person don't know the difference or what they are talking about! I also blow snow in the winter with this tractor. It starts in cold Iowa weather without plugging it in. The tractor had more than three times the hours on it as my 317 when it blew it first engine. I am absolutely sure this engine will out wear the tractor. All the maintenance it has needed is change the oil and filter, replace the air filter once in awhile and keep little diesel around in a can as it don't use much. No ignition system or spark plugs to worry about on this machine. The real sad fact to this model is that Deere has not and does not really make a tractor to replace it. The 455 would be the closest thing to it but is a larger tractor. I been told there is a new 300?? model something now available but is a tin whistle compared to the 332.

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WTW

03-12-2002 12:31:01




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 Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to ryan, 03-10-2002 17:14:29  
ryan, I have a John Deere 332 diesel. It is basically the 318 tractor with a 16 HP, three cylinder, water cooled Yanmar diesel engine. I would recommend this tractor to anyone with a lawn and garden tractor need. It replaced my 317 (17 HP twin Kohler) that would burn one tank of gas to mow my yard once and now I mow the same yard 5 times on the same amount of diesel fuel. To tell a home owner not to buy one of these is telling me this person don't know the difference or what they are talking about! I also blow snow in the winter with this tractor. It starts in cold Iowa weather without plugging it in. The tractor had more than three times the hours on it as my 317 when it blew it first engine. I am absolutely sure this engine will out wear the tractor. All the maintenance it has needed is change the oil and filter, replace the air filter once in awhile and keep little diesel around in a can as it don't use much. No ignition system or spark plugs to worry about on this machine. The real sad fact to this model is that Deere has not and does not really make a tractor to replace it. The 455 would be the closest thing to it but is a larger tractor. I been told there is a new 300?? model something now available but is a tin whistle compared to the 332.

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G Taylor

03-12-2002 15:51:53




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 Re: Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to WTW, 03-12-2002 12:31:01  
For the average Joe that runs his tractor two hours per week in the summer & less in the fall/spring/winter the lower initial price of a gasoline tractor pays the difference in fuel costs on reduced interest payments alone. An electronic ignition system is virtually trouble and service free but everyone who loves diesel keeps comparing to old pointignition systems & plug fouling as if were were also using leaded fuel. Anyone can change plugs once a year but injector/pump service requires a pro & expensive shop equipment. As said before a commercial user clocking high hours then of course the diesel wins hands down. Re-read the response and context before jumping off the handle.

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WTW

03-13-2002 07:05:14




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 Re: Re: Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to G Taylor , 03-12-2002 15:51:53  
I will reread yours if you reread mine. My point / opinion was: It is the tractor for the average Joe home owner epically the one that does not regularly trade there tractor as the life and efficiency of it will well out way the cost difference. I didn't buy my tractor new and paid only a few hundred dollars for my 332 over a comparable 318. This tractor is for the average Joe that is buying a tractor of this size because for the most part maintenance free for a whole lot longer. I only put a few hours a week on mine or less. Just because you don't understand or like diesels don't mean other people don't. You have your opinion and I have mine. May be you ought to get off your high horse and admit to the fact that you are wrong again as other people have pointed out on this board as well! Post back like you usually do with another smart A$$ reply.

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G Taylor

03-13-2002 07:39:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to WTW, 03-13-2002 07:05:14  
Do the math with a new purchase,the hours used & price of each fuel.Gasoline engines running unleaded fuel & electronic ignition are not the high maintaince item they once were. Plugs change easier than injectors. The late breaking news you scooped a deal with a diesel at gas cost plus the higher than average hours of use, does work to your advantage. Each engine has it's place. Most garden tractors don't see more than 1000-1500 hours in the typical 10 to 20 year ownership.

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tbutman

11-28-2005 19:27:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to G Taylor , 03-13-2002 07:39:05  
I totally agree about the 332 I bought a second one this summer that I found with only 600 hours on it. These are the freaking work horses of the old Deere. My older 332 (1987) had 2700 hours on the hour meter and had spend a year not working (the hour meter) This tractor has never been in the shop and is on the 3rd new mowing deck. I have repainted it twice and it still looks pretty good so when I found another one this summer (1990 model) with a quick-tach hitch, front pto and a new power broom as well as a 3 bag bagger system and the mowing deck was like new and for only $3000 I went right up and got it. Anyone who wants a great low maintenance tractor should look into these as the prices are very reasonable these days.by the way the 1987 332 I have had since it was new~

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Don H

03-11-2002 17:24:05




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 Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to ryan, 03-10-2002 17:14:29  
Allis Chalmers owned Simplicity until they sold it when they went out of business. Simplicity then built tractors for Deutz Allis, and while A C owned the whole shebang, produced tractors with both the A C name and the Simplicity name. One of their larger models at that time used an Italian diesel by the name of Lombardini. It was never regarded as a very good engine and was deleted from the line after a short time. I have seen that model but don't know anyone who has one.

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G Taylor Deere in 83 with diesel

03-11-2002 08:41:46




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 Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to ryan, 03-10-2002 17:14:29  
Deere released the 430 lawn tractor with diesel power in 1983. I've heard rumours of a 420 diesel being built for 1 year to test the market in 82,can't find any hard data at the moment. For the comercial user diesel is an advantage but for comsumer use, purchase the gas engine. You have to burn a truck load of offroad diesel just to breakeven.



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RAW in IA

03-10-2002 19:31:25




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 Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to ryan, 03-10-2002 17:14:29  
Cub Cadet has had a Diesel since about 1984. My son in law has one, and it just will not run out of power. Just smokes a litle and puls a little harder under load.



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Scott ks

03-10-2002 18:40:37




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 Re: diesel lawn tractors in reply to ryan, 03-10-2002 17:14:29  
Hi Ryan, Look here There are some bigger lawn tractors that had the Lombardy in them.



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