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JD G as apposed to JD GM

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Nate Lillibridg

01-23-2002 19:21:35




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Is one tractor prefered over the other? Did Deere offer a wide front in the GM tractor? Are all the wide fronts on a B, A, & G the same?




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The Dukester

01-24-2002 22:06:48




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 Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to Nate Lillibridge, 01-23-2002 19:21:35  
Risking being "shot down" again on this John Deere board I will try my best to be accurate and just amswer your questions. I have seen a G type styled tractor with a all steel seat of the "butt bucket" type that was equipped with a wide front adjustable axle. The main thing that attracted me to this tractor was that it had the "elephant trunk" upper bolster in contrast to the straight universal type bolster my '48 GW has. I could not find a serial number tag on this tractor, so I'm not sure whether it was one of the very early GW"s or if it was a GM with a factory wide front, A "GMW" sort of--uh, maybe. I saw the tractor about 6 years ago at an agricultural ranch/processing center on Hwy 99 south of Yuba City, California. From what I have seen at shows, John Deere Expo's included, most if not all, late styled AW's, BW's, and GW's, used the same wide front axle assemblies, with the exception that most of the later models of all the tractors used a 2 inch shorter rise on the vertical portion of the spindle resulting in 2 inches less crop clearance under the horizontal upper axle frame. These tractors may not have been "true W" models, but plain row crop versions fitted with the optional wide front, I never took time to check. In all cases the assemblies on all the tractors were the round adjustable type with the steering arm ball entering the swivel joint on the tie rod from above on the early type and from below on the later types. Where in the production run of these tractors the changes were made I have no idea.(But maybe I will try to find out).

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The Dukester

01-24-2002 22:13:30




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 Re: Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to The Dukester, 01-24-2002 22:06:48  
Hey, this ain't the John Deere board, mebbe I'm safe. I hope, I hope, I hope.



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G puller

01-24-2002 07:11:05




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 Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to Nate Lillibridge, 01-23-2002 19:21:35  
10,700 unstyled G's were made about 9,000 GM's 34,408 for a total of about 54,108.as for the wide front end all styled A's B's G's used axle housing B2690R with the G using a19 3/4 spindle and A's B's used a 17 3/4



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Mike

01-24-2002 06:18:37




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 Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to Nate Lillibridge, 01-23-2002 19:21:35  
I like my GM over my G for cosmetic reasons- I like the look of the old steel seat on the G, also the GM has the raised cast letters in the rear axle housings that the 48 does not have. They are basicaly the same tractor and the GM designation did come about when JD stylized the G. Due to wartime price restrictions they were locked into producing G tractors for X # $s, hence the new designation, the GM (G modernized) If anyone had the production #s on the GM I'd be curious. I believe the total production of styled, unstyled and GM was about 67000?

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DP

01-24-2002 04:52:45




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 Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to Nate Lillibridge, 01-23-2002 19:21:35  
Good question Nate. I don't know that theres a preference one way or the other yet. The G's were low enough production to make them all worth having. The GM's were the lowest in production numbers overall, including the unstyled, and in my own opinion will be more valued someday. Mechanicaly there is little differance. I have a GM and G's and my personal favorite to drive is my 49 G. You realy can't go wrong with a G.

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Dan

01-23-2002 21:14:58




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 Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to Nate Lillibridge, 01-23-2002 19:21:35  
I believe the G and GM are basically the same. Seems I read in the reen magazine that Deere came out with the GM during war yers so they could raise the price, was a new model designation and they couldn't raise the price on the old ones. Think a wide front was available on the G but not many out there. I would think the A wide front would come close to the G but think the B would be too small.

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Leonard Estep

12-28-2005 17:24:32




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 Re: Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to Dan, 01-23-2002 21:14:58  
I have a '47 JD model GM.
Have started to restore,and need to remove the flywheel,I have used a flywheel wrench with a 4ft.extension and can not move the nuts. Any sujustions. Thank you.



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Alberta Mike

01-24-2002 07:15:20




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 Re: Re: JD G as apposed to JD GM in reply to Dan, 01-23-2002 21:14:58  
I read somewhere that Ford did the same thing during the war years when they changed the 9N designation to the 2N, basically the same tractor but they could charge more for it.



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