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$50000 fine ... are you kidding ????

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Country Boy

09-13-2001 19:30:09




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Read some of the messages below about gas prices and the supposed $50000 fine that is going to happen. Now, let's get real here boys. It's one of those 1950's fad rumors like the $75 T-Bird that you could buy at the funeral parlor but it had a dead body in it for 3 months. I think most rational people know that a vendor can charge pretty much any amount for anything that you're selling in this country. To my limited knowledge of the law, that's pretty much the way it is and of course, the 'fine' thing is just wishful thinking by those that got hosed. At least, I think that's the way things are and even Big George hasn't changed that yet.

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bman

09-17-2001 14:48:44




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
here in southwest mo a lot of stations raised prices to 2.00 a gallon.i went into one station that i used to trade at and told them how i felt. i also told everybody i knew what kind of americans i thought the owners were.don't reckon i'm welcome at that station any more. oh well, i will just go to a station ran buy true americans



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Mike-PA

09-14-2001 16:14:13




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Don't wait or expect the government to do what you should have enough guts to do, DON'T EVER buy anything from the stations that gouge, if everyone did this(and informed anyone entering the station of the reason for the boycott) they would be out of business within 2 months. Just don't accept their apology, JUST DON'T EVER BUY FROM THEM AGAIN!!! See, its easy.



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Greaseman

09-14-2001 15:37:22




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
I agree that the oil company's should be making some profit's but not all the time should we have to pay more than $2 a gallon for 87 grade gasoline ever. I was just charged $6+ for a hand full of washers from a small town in Livingston County New York at the local National Auto Store.



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Murphy

09-14-2001 14:20:42




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Don't know about where you're from but here in Kansas it's $5,000 per incident. It could easily be more than $50,000 total. We have a couple here in KC on both sides of the line that are in deep. They were giving receipts showing twice as much gas being pumped at half the price trying to cover their backsides. One lady was told to stop pumping gas just so they could raise prices... Most stations here were around $1.59 to $1.64. These guys were charging $4.99 and $5.59 per gal. just because they could.

The law is stating that if you have a reason to raise your prices, then you are justified in doing so. If not and you just decide to raise prices for the heck of it... expect trouble. A bunch of folks around here took notice of which stations raised the prices and they will find it hard to get customers back.

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Larry

09-14-2001 15:40:11




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 Re: Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Murphy, 09-14-2001 14:20:42  
Yakima Wa a gas station raised prices to 6.99 a gallon and people were lined up to get gas. Anyone stop to wonder how much gas has not been used with all the planes grounded and most people missing one or two days of work that should create a surplus and prices should drop. Anyone hear of a price drop. Just wondering-------



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Fudd@Work

09-14-2001 20:57:56




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 Re: Re: Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Larry, 09-14-2001 15:40:11  
Yup. Here in Denver, CO. the price of gas dropped 2 cents at some stations.



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John

09-14-2001 13:07:07




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
In the State of Illinois, there is a law against taking advantage of a consumer. Jimmy Ryan has set the wheels in motion against our biggest offender, even though the company is from Iowa. If it were up to me, everyone would boycott that chain which also has a Kwik Shop with it.



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John Ne.

09-14-2001 10:59:58




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Same thing here, Nebraska Attorney General announced fines up to 50 grand if he catches gas stations gouging due to the NewYork attack. The night of the attack, some hot shot news media types announced that crude probably would go up. Taking advantage seems to be alright at the oil company level but not for the local station on the corner guy. go figure. John in Ne.



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lpc

09-14-2001 09:29:28




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
The thing I can't figure out is that after being at $1.49 for the cheap stuff at the station I visit for months, the day before this happened the price went to $1.73. Seems like too much of a coincidence.



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MN Mike

09-14-2001 06:55:08




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
The SD Governor announced yesterday that he is monitoring 13 cities 2 X daily & he WILL take legal measures if he determines that anyone was profiteering. I heard all of the rumors re: $5 - 6 per gallon, but in my town it did not change.



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Dale G

09-14-2001 06:25:19




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
The Attorney General in Illinois is also filing suit.I personally will not buy fuel from the stations in my area who participated in the price gouging.



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rick

09-14-2001 06:07:29




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Ohio is NOT happy with price gouging at the pump.
See www.ag.state.oh.us for Ohio Attorney Generals
actions.



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paul

09-14-2001 05:14:06




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Under normal conditions I agree that people who got hosed are to blame.

In times of a crisis it is wrong to price gouge, and I think most people, maybe not you, but most people, would agree this is a time of crisis. In such a case, there are laws in almost all states to protect people from fear mongering, 'insider trading' type issues, price gouging, and all such.

Better brush up on your law books. :)

The bigger issue is, who is willing to do business with a station that is willing to profit off the scares & woes of this situation? I can't imagine walking into such a place & spending my money there ever again. If you choose to do so, that is your business.

As I said elsewhere, many stations did not raise their pump prices, but put a high price out on the street, to slow down the long lines & traffic jams around them. If the point was to control the lines of irrational people, I have no problem with that - tho it seems it drove the irrational people farther.

--->Paul

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Jim (MI)

09-14-2001 04:53:35




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Although as a private company, the gas companies should be allowed to charge whatever they feel fit. Most states have laws protecting prices in a time of crisis. They should have every right to gouge under normal circumstances, since you have that right in America. Just under crisis conditions this is not allowed.



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JustKidding

09-14-2001 01:28:23




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
We had a jacka$$ here in Iowa who raised it up to $4.00 a gal. I feel like going down to his station tonight and giving him a knuckle sandwich. Think I would too, if some rich a$$ lawyer wouldn't sue the snot outa me. Not gonna wait around for the pi$$ a$$ law to slap his wrist. Reminds me of during the depression, the only way to get things done was to get a truckload full of farmers with axe handles. It stopped foreclosure sales pretty well..........

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hay

09-14-2001 04:49:08




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 Re: Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to JustKidding, 09-14-2001 01:28:23  
i hear ya. price gouging is nothing but stealing. any lowlife that would take advantage of their customers like that outta get a hefty fine and/or jail time.



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Jim P

09-13-2001 21:35:44




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Nebraska's law is $2000 for each sale at gouging prices. This is a fine levied at stations.



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Jim

09-14-2001 07:06:42




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 Re: Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Jim P, 09-13-2001 21:35:44  
My wife is a manager at a quick shop in Nebraska. The owners called and said that there suppler was going to double the price on the next load of fuel that they got.



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bob

09-14-2001 16:10:12




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 Re: Re: Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Jim, 09-14-2001 07:06:42  
in this case it isn,t your wifes fault it,s the hard hearted owner. I hope he can sleep nites used to be called blackmarket



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Richard

09-13-2001 21:15:11




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
Kansas and Missouri have price gouging laws and some here are going to be prosicuted.



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Ray,IN

09-13-2001 20:37:20




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 Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Country Boy, 09-13-2001 19:30:09  
I can't say anything about fines, however the Indiana state attorney general televised his announcement that he is prosecuting offenders under an obscure law. If you wish to confirm this please visit his website:



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Jim WI

09-14-2001 10:17:46




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 Re: Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Ray,IN, 09-13-2001 20:37:20  
If you dig deep enough into his site you find out that he's basically making threatening noises without much to back it up.

If there were a law in Indiana that fit what's going on, he'd be pointing right at it.



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Redtractorman

09-13-2001 21:13:03




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 Re: Re: $50000 fine ... are you kidding ???? in reply to Ray,IN, 09-13-2001 20:37:20  
This is also true in Michigan



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