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Peter Gurney

07-30-2001 03:17:02




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I am in the process of buying a zetor tractor, unseen. apparently it is a 1135? has anyone got any information and age of this tractor?




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Burrhead

07-30-2001 08:14:18




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 Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Peter Gurney, 07-30-2001 03:17:02  
According to the list I have here there is no 1135 model.

I don't know but this is supposed to be a complete list.

Zetor builds John Deere so if you think a Deere is ok you should be satisfied with the Zetor.



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Bernh. Voßen

07-30-2001 13:02:10




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 Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 07-30-2001 08:14:18  
Sorry, boys You are wrong
The Zetor is not a JD, it's an own build czech
tractor, also build in Poland in license as Ursus from 75-12oHP, the old Ursus are all build under Zetor-license, the 1135 had been produced until the late 70' had 35HP, and is not so bad as you think.Zetor's a very cheap an strong tractors, easy to repair. Here in Germany there are areas where you can find a lot of them in all HP classes so at the czech Border. I give You a Link to the Zetor-website, as soon as possible.
Regards Bernhard

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Burrhead

07-30-2001 14:57:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Bernh. Voßen, 07-30-2001 13:02:10  
You read it backwards comrad. We realize they are made in Czeck. They went bankrupt in 1999 and that screwed up the parts supply for Zetor and JD both.

When Tratka took over the plants the supply picked back up and we can get parts here.

Zetor still builds the larger John Deere on contract for John Deere. Yanmar builds the smaller John Deere, Massey and Fords.

They are pretty fair tractors but they are not cheap here in the states. The Zetor is between a Ford NH and a Massey price wise in my area.

Americans do not care who builds a tractor as long as the American franchised dealer can supply financing and paint it green or red.

I don't know what inovative ideas John Deere demanded on a Zetor built John Deere, but all the parts will interchange on some models so the new idea must have been to use thicker green paint maybe??

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Bernh. Voßen

07-31-2001 12:59:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 07-30-2001 14:57:42  
Why did John-Deere buy Zetor( if this is right).
It's very simple: All american (and european) companies will be present on the new eastern market!!! In east europe they know Deutz, Fendt, MF, Fiat, Ursus, Belarus, Zetor and Case IH. but noone knows John-Deere. That's it. I spend some time in Poland, and I saw all the tractors I wright about, but never a John-Deere.



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Burrhead

08-01-2001 19:28:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Bernh. Voßen, 07-31-2001 12:59:46  
I don't know why but I do know the JD is made by Zetor.

I would imagine JD is slipping them in through Zetor in South America. Our combines and combine parts still say JD on the box but they are shipped in from Argentina. Cheaper for business in America now, but the consumer still pays more..

We don't have any domestic equipment unless you call painted green and red tractors domestic.

Ursus is building the mid range Massey now. I priced a Landini 70hp and it was almost twice what a Ford cost. Sad part is that the Ford is a Iseki made in Japan out of Tiawan metals.

Mercedes Benz has a plant in Alabama now. I always thought a M-B was top of the line, but how can they claim old world craftsmanship if it's made in Alabama????

I'm not knocking Alabama, they do the best they can I guess, but they are'nt world famous for automobile technology and dang sure can't build a coo-coo clock.

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James Alton

11-10-2003 08:43:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 08-01-2001 19:28:25  
Dear Mr. Burrhead,
This is in response to a very old message you posted on August 01, 2001 at 19:28:25. This is a tractor forum and I suppose we should stick to tractors. I have noticed that you see to have a lot of opinions about every thing but apparently you have not been to Alabama in the recent past. We would treat you with more respect and kindliness than you appear to have for this part of the world. Most of us have electricity and a few of us even have indoor toilets. We love to project the image that you appear to have of the people of this great state as this image keeps much of the riff raff out. The largest problem we have is that a lot of folks from the north and west that visit here tend to want to stay and most of us are quite satisfied with our local population mix. For example, the city of Huntsville and Madison has more PHDs and scientists per capita than any other place in the good ole USA. We have a large part of NASA located in Huntsville and all of the US Army Missile and Helicopter management. There are many things in this state that attract a lot of folks but we don’t advertise a lot. The most attractive part of the state is folks that are friendly, respectful and generally do not bad mouth other places and people very much. We would love for you to visit with us but kindly remember how you got here so you will know how to return home.

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Bernh. Voßen

08-02-2001 04:54:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 08-01-2001 19:28:25  
Hi Burrhead!
Your right, Mecedes got a plant in Alabama, but your government gave them a lot of money, to realize their factory there and they have got a lot of quality-problems overthere, the M-class, sold in Germany is built at the Steyr-works in Graz/Austria, even the Chrysler Cherokee. and the Mercedes-G. The same as BMW which have to overhaul their Z-Cabrio, and VW with the Rabbit, also built in USA, but they closed the plant: Quality-problems!!. May be Your right, in moment there is no website available about Zetor. I know that JD and Renault agriculture built the same tractors only in orange and green, a friend of mine has an "Ares" appr. 100 HP, it's a JD in orange.
Bernhard

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Burrhead

08-02-2001 17:32:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Bernh. Voßen, 08-02-2001 04:54:45  
I have'nt ever been able to find a Zetor site since 98 or 99 when they belly flopped and were taken over.

I had a Benz sedan years ago that I wore out I wish I had kept it and restored it.

To my way of thinking, buying a Benz made in Alabama would make about as much sense as buying a fine dinner wine from pygmies..



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Bernh. Voßen

08-03-2001 08:10:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 08-02-2001 17:32:07  
Hi Burrhead!
Your absolutely right, If you take a look on the german streets looking for cars, older than 15 years, you'll mostly find Mercedes (german built) and Volkswagen.You see trucks here, built by Mercedes, almost more then 15 years old, also MB-Trac, and Unimog.
I got Internet in Dec. last year and during all the time i looked the Zetor website. On the site of JD there's no information about Zetor.
Rgds.
Bernhard

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Burrhead

08-03-2001 12:27:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Bernh. Voßen, 08-03-2001 08:10:37  
Hello Bernh.

Where are you located I stayed in A-burg for a while many moons ago.



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Bernh. Voßen

08-06-2001 07:42:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 08-03-2001 12:27:37  
I stay in the Rhine-area between Aachen and Cologne, appr. 16 miles form the border to the netherlands and belgium, called Dreiländereck
(Threecountriescorner), Augsburg is in bavaria and a lot of miles (i believe 250 to 300 miles)away.
Rgds
Bernhard



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paul

07-30-2001 08:35:34




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 Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 07-30-2001 08:14:18  
Well, it depends on the age of the tractor!

Older Zetor's do not have the best reputation. JD has added some specs & such to upgrade their manufaturing tolerences a little bit. Kind of like saying Japanese cars are well built - now yes, but not 30 years ago!

--->Paul



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Burrhead

07-30-2001 09:53:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to paul, 07-30-2001 08:35:34  
You got a point there. If it's old enough to be a real JD then it's a JD, but if it's a newer model JD it's just a Zetor with green paint.



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Gary

07-30-2001 17:41:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 07-30-2001 09:53:06  
Now Burr you can mess around with us on that other board but these Deere guys are real touchy,
telling them a Deere ain't nothing but a cheap old
communist tractor is like telling them there ain't
no Mr. Claus!



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jd730

07-30-2001 18:43:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Gary, 07-30-2001 17:41:27  
John Deere no longer has tractors built by Yanmar ,they still use their engines in some garden tractors and all the 4000 series compact tractors. They had partnership with Zetor in South America selling tractors but Zetor never built any tractors for Deere in the states. The 4000 and 5000 series are built in Georgia the 6000 series in Germany, the 7405 in Mexico and the rest are built in Waterloo Iowa .

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Burrhead

08-02-2001 18:35:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to jd730, 07-30-2001 18:43:09  
I did'nt say they we made in the states. They have'nt been made in the states for some years now. They are manufacured overseas and shipped here in unassembled units, then assembled here with Tiawan, Czeck, Chinese, Japanese and South American parts.

I don't know where the actual point of manufacture is or was, but the tags on the side of these JD cowling here at the farm says Buenos Aires. The Fords say Iseki-Japan amd the Masseys say Ursa-Poland.

The American companies including Deere still have parts and equipment made in Japan and even Tiawan and China. It gets shipped to Buenos Aires and makes it's way into the states. Thanks to our wonderful NAFTA agreements.

I mean who would want a skilled American to have to make his living on a descent wage to build tractors that we can pay more for that are made by feriners. If we trade tractor parts with Czecks and Chinese we can all draw welfare and complain about not having enough work here in the states.

Plus that now we can wait 2-3 weeks for a JD or Ford part while Hung Pharr Low and his brother One Hung Low stamp them out in a forge without a EPA or OSHA man breathing down their necks????

Where is Iseki, Georgia??? The data plates on these Ford and JD injector pumps both have Iseki stamped in them. That Iseki, Georgia must be down stream from Buenos Aires, Tennessee beside the Mazda plants.

Thes JD combine heads have had Buenos Aires on the crates since at least 83 or so. Even these Brouser Fords we have for turf harvesters are made in Canada.

It looks like some of theis equipment we have made in the states could be better quality than Howse and International.

One of the last good American products we have is Bushhog and now they use Tiawan steel and Chinese bearings.

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Bernh. Voßen

08-08-2001 05:34:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Zetor Tractor in reply to Burrhead, 08-02-2001 18:35:34  
Oh Burrhead,
I believe, that's a problem all araound the world, the first Golf(Rabbit ) had been made out of russian steel, they rusted up faster than you can look.

And this is the true, american companies, who bought german plant's in the past try to get the american system of working to Germany, but this doesn't fit, we got an other mentality about working, and the Managers didn' realise this. All over the world the management is wrong, not the craftsmen.
so long
Bernhard

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