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Danny

07-11-1998 22:17:42




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Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
Danny




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frederick mockler

10-23-1999 11:33:34




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  
I have an older Sears Craftsman Tractor, and I am in need of a Voltage Regulator. The model of the Engine is 143-602022. 12 horse.
Sears Craftsman.

The Generator type is 11689. Can you help me to obtain the proper voltage regulator??



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Unknown Mower

03-26-2000 20:10:01




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to frederick mockler, 10-23-1999 11:33:34  
I recently purchased the Craftsman 20hp / 50"cut Lawn Tractor. I probably should have asked this question prior to buying it, but I wanted to see what kind of experience others may have had with this machine. Feedback welcome. Thanks



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Mike

05-25-2000 07:22:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Unknown Mower, 03-26-2000 20:10:01  
have had a craftsman garden tractor for 4 seasons
now, it has the 20.5 HP Koelher engine with a 46"
deck. we mow 3 acres and have had no problems at all. most of the time a teenager runs the tractor
so it gets no babying.
Not a better tractor for the price!

Lots of trouble free mowing to you.



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Rich Linder

10-28-2000 20:56:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Mike, 05-25-2000 07:22:28  
I have the 20HP Craftsman with 46 in deck. I also have the rear blade, wheel chains and weights, a disc harrow a trailer and a 42 in sweeper. It don't get babied. Over an acre of lawn with lots of trees and leaves in the fall. Absolutly no problems and the thing gets used all the time.



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Todd Markle

07-24-1998 18:31:40




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  
Looks to me like this guy got more info than he bargained for.
But I'll put in my 2 cents worth anyway.I've spent most of my
12 yr carreer working in a IH/Cub Cadet dealership, and come from a family of tractor nuts. In my opinion you'd be better off
buying an older cub or jd or even a gravely aged from the late
60s to early 80s. You should be able to pick up a nice one in
the $500-$1500 range. Most of these older "premium" tractors
dont have a lot of parts that wear out quick like a craftsman would.
You will always have belts bearings and engine parts, but at least availability
isnt a problem.Try to get parts for a craftsman that is over 10 yrs old.
These tractors also dont have a lot of plastic and electronic safty switches
and junk like ALL the newer tractors have.These older tractors are also a
lot easier to work on.How many 20 yr old sears tractors do you see still in use?
In my area of central pa. their are literally hundreds of them.
Just one more note, I do a little garden tractor pulling and 95% of
the tractors used for this are Cub Cadets-many have the engines modified
to put out 50-100 hp. Nuff said.

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Big Mike

07-25-1998 07:14:01




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Todd Markle, 07-24-1998 18:31:40  

: Looks to me like this guy got more info than he bargained for.
: But I'll put in my 2 cents worth anyway.I've spent most of my
: 12 yr carreer working in a IH/Cub Cadet dealership, and come from : a family of tractor nuts. In my opinion you'd be better off
: buying an older cub or jd or even a gravely aged from the late
: 60s to early 80s. You should be able to pick up a nice one in
: the $500-$1500 range. Most of these older "premium" tractors
: dont have a lot of parts that wear out quick like a craftsman would.
: You will always have belts bearings and engine parts, but at least availability
: isnt a problem.Try to get parts for a craftsman that is over 10 yrs old.
: These tractors also dont have a lot of plastic and electronic safty switches
: and junk like ALL the newer tractors have.These older tractors are also a
: lot easier to work on.How many 20 yr old sears tractors do you see still in use?
: In my area of central pa. their are literally hundreds of them.
: Just one more note, I do a little garden tractor pulling and 95% of
: the tractors used for this are Cub Cadets-many have the engines modified
: to put out 50-100 hp. Nuff said.

50 to 100h.p. on a Cadet,huh? (And they say I
drink to much Budweiser!) The Tractor Tales page is one down, Todd. :0) Mike...

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Todd Markle

07-29-1998 18:38:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Big Mike, 07-25-1998 07:14:01  
: : : Looks to me like this guy got more info than he bargained for.
: : But I'll put in my 2 cents worth anyway.I've spent most of my
: : 12 yr carreer working in a IH/Cub Cadet dealership, and come from : : a family of tractor nuts. In my opinion you'd be better off
: : buying an older cub or jd or even a gravely aged from the late
: : 60s to early 80s. You should be able to pick up a nice one in
: : the $500-$1500 range. Most of these older "premium" tractors
: : dont have a lot of parts that wear out quick like a craftsman would.
: : You will always have belts bearings and engine parts, but at least availability
: : isnt a problem.Try to get parts for a craftsman that is over 10 yrs old.
: : These tractors also dont have a lot of plastic and electronic safty switches
: : and junk like ALL the newer tractors have.These older tractors are also a
: : lot easier to work on.How many 20 yr old sears tractors do you see still in use?
: : In my area of central pa. their are literally hundreds of them.
: : Just one more note, I do a little garden tractor pulling and 95% of
: : the tractors used for this are Cub Cadets-many have the engines modified
: : to put out 50-100 hp. Nuff said.

: 50 to 100h.p. on a Cadet,huh? (And they say I
: drink to much Budweiser!) The Tractor Tales page is one down, Todd. :0) Mike...

I dont care about your drinking habits, and I dont like an attack on my honesty. You obviosly dont know much about modifying engines.
let me educate you a little. First of all you can take a stock kohler
16 hp single cyl engine that is governed at 3600 rpm. and unhook the governor
and it will turn 5000-6000 rpms. Horsepower is directly related to engine speed.
this alone will nearly double the power. that gives you 30.
now these engines are built to last so they are very low compression and have a very mild cam. When you add compression, put it a hotter cam
bigger carb bigger valves etc. it isnt hard to see that these figures are realistic.
Compare a 16hp kohler which is about 650cc to an average 650cc motorcycle engine.
They are about the same displacement but a bike engine has 3-4 times the horsepower because it turns a lot more rpms an is much more highly tuned. So therefore if you
change the kohler to make it more like the bike engine you will get a lot more power.
There is a national pulling organization that has an annual pull in Ohio. Basically
their main rule is that the engine has to be a single cyl, but otherwise, anything goes.
they run superchargers, nitrous oxide,turbos etc. and i would not even guess how much
horsepower they might have. Just to give you another hard to swallow figure, I have a minneapolis moline "U" that I pull with. It originally put out about 40 pto hp stock,
now it has about 130 pto hp. Anyone that is into tractor pulling can tell you That these figures are true and I can prove it on a pto dynomometer.Look at NTPA super stock class tractors. Im talking about IH 1066s that made about 150 hp stock that now put out an estimated 2000 hp.
If you still dont beleive me maybe you'd better have another Bud.

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Todd Markle

07-24-1998 18:39:51




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Todd Markle, 07-24-1998 18:31:40  
: Looks to me like this guy got more info than he bargained for.
: But I'll put in my 2 cents worth anyway.I've spent most of my
: 12 yr carreer working in a IH/Cub Cadet dealership, and come from : a family of tractor nuts. In my opinion you'd be better off
: buying an older cub or jd or even a gravely aged from the late
: 60s to early 80s. You should be able to pick up a nice one in
: the $500-$1500 range. Most of these older "premium" tractors
: dont have a lot of parts that wear out quick like a craftsman would.
: You will always have belts bearings and engine parts, but at least availability
: isnt a problem.Try to get parts for a craftsman that is over 10 yrs old.
: These tractors also dont have a lot of plastic and electronic safty switches
: and junk like ALL the newer tractors have.These older tractors are also a
: lot easier to work on.How many 20 yr old sears tractors do you see still in use?
: In my area of central pa. their are literally hundreds of them.
: Just one more note, I do a little garden tractor pulling and 95% of
: the tractors used for this are Cub Cadets-many have the engines modified
: to put out 50-100 hp. Nuff said.

OOPS!! I meant that their are hundreds of older Cub Cadets still in use around here.

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cub cadet man

03-09-1999 06:19:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Todd Markle, 07-24-1998 18:39:51  
I learned to drive tractors on a '66 cub cadet
with a 10 hp kohler with DOUBLE REAR TIRES (with real tread).
they had no air in them, there was so much surface area.
It was used only for towing on an a small island.
We would tow 20+ foot boats out of the water and onto the dry land,
also telephone-sized wooden poles off of the beach, and
we used a certain trailer towing everything from
10 100# propane tanks at a time, to complete loads of lumber,
and everything you can imagine. I have never seen it slip.
It was super-reliable and indistructable.
That was my first tractor experience, and I did it for 8 years.
I'll tell you, these modern tractors are such a let-down.
I now own a gravely tractor And an '67 cub cadet model 72.
I have searched very hard for another one (the one I had first
used was owned by somebody else), and was amazed when this guy
just up and gave it to me, along with a 38" mowing deck.
It's in excellent condition. AND I can still get all parts.
Old (pre-MTD/pre 70s) cub cadets are my idealized tractor.
At any rate, good luck.

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a. Conn

07-06-2000 06:23:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to cub cadet man, 03-09-1999 06:19:39  
;help....were looking at a new craftsman garden tractor model 27307.....
anyone know anything about them, how they rate, basic is it a decent tractor??



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stoney

07-23-1998 06:15:31




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  
I have the same model but with the Kohler engine and its OK, but there is no resale on these things especially without Hydro - I can buy a brand new MTD or Yardman at Home Depot for $1200 - probably the same quality as the craftsman with briggs and stratton. Finally the Craftsman is terrible if you plan to take off the deck regularly.



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Keith

07-14-1998 21:14:08




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  
: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.: DannyDanny:I own three Craftsman tractors. I believe I have the model that you are inquiring about, it has an 18 hp industrial B/S with dual transmissions, 3 high and three low with a 44 inch cutting deck. I haven't had too much trouble with it, only the starter drive approximately $35.00.I have about 2 acres to mow and some light hauling using a large trailer, that's all I use it for. Craftsman tractors were manufactured by Roper Inc., I'm not sure if they still produce for Sears. The other two tractors run OK. One is used with a snow blower and the other for a spare. Craftsman made a great tractor years ago ( Suburban ) these tractors were much heavier and included a cast iron front end with grease fittings. To be more price competitive in today's market Sears has lowered their quality, Sear tractors have poorly constructed steering mechanisms and are very light weight for a garden tractor as some of the other feedback comments mentioned. If you are only going to mow your lawn approximately two acres or less buy it ( $900-1100 ). If you are planning to use rear attachments, i.e. garden plow, rototiller, its too light! What ever your decision is Good Luck!!!Keith

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Larry

07-14-1998 19:37:27




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  

: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny

Danny, don,t think no one answered your guestion. If you are looking for somthing to mow about 11/2 acres or less and maybe a short driveway to plow snow with, the sears should be ok, anything less than 1500 would be a good price. If you decide to buy somthing more expenesive buy gravely or toro wheelhorse.

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Big Mike

07-14-1998 17:03:16




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  

: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny

Boys,you're talking about premium tractors. You pay premium prices for those. Cratftsman is a hardware store tractor,and for those in its class,
its pretty darn good! Mike...

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Cope

07-14-1998 09:32:31




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  
I would not buy a Craftsman. You are better off to spend a little more and get a lot better lawn tractor that will actually last. I recommend a Simplicity. They have a lifetime warranty on there belt and have a floating deck to prevent scalping of the yard. Also, you can take the deck out from under the lawn trackor in 2 minutes tops. Can't beat that.



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ford

07-13-1998 16:33:03




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  

: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny

if you want one buy new, that way you can get a service agreement. you will need it believe me.

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Big Mike

07-13-1998 15:43:00




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  

: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny

I bought my craftsman new,2 years ago.Its got the 15h.p. Kohler Command engine on it.This little mower has taken everything I've threw at
her.The only things I've replaced so far is blades
and deck belts.Some solinoid trouble too,but thats it.The older sears mowers(EARLY_MID EIGHTIES) had a lot of problems.My ol' M.T.D.
I had to rebuild deck about 3 times in as many years.Mike

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John Fritz

07-13-1998 11:59:31




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  

: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny

I have a 1985 Craftsman with 38" deck and 11 hp briggs. Also have a 1990 JD STX 38. Guess which one is still running? JD of course. Have replaced the battery once and the blades and that is it. Has 400 hours on it and is not using oil yet. Craftsman has been junked out for 2 or 3 years now and had maybe 200 hours at most. Literally everything on it has given out. I'll stick to their hand tools only from now on.

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Big Mike

07-14-1998 18:34:04




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to John Fritz, 07-13-1998 11:59:31  

: : : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : Danny

: I have a 1985 Craftsman with 38" deck and 11 hp briggs. Also have a 1990 JD STX 38. Guess which one is still running? JD of course. Have replaced the battery once and the blades and that is it. Has 400 hours on it and is not using oil yet. Craftsman has been junked out for 2 or 3 years now and had maybe 200 hours at most. Literally everything on it has given out. I'll stick to their hand tools only from now on.

Yeah John, but what powers those two mowers? John Deere don't make the engine!
They got a better frame but, engine is Briggs,Kohler,or other! Peerless made drive train for A BUNCH OF THEM.You're paying for green paint,as far as a lawn tractor is concerned. Mike....

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Cope

07-15-1998 08:56:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Big Mike, 07-14-1998 18:34:04  
: Yeah John, but what powers those two mowers? John Deere don't make the engine!
: They got a better frame but, engine is Briggs,Kohler,or other! Peerless made drive train for A BUNCH OF THEM.You're paying for green paint,as far as a lawn tractor is concerned. Mike....


You're not really paying for the paint. You might ought to check the deck on the mower before purchasing. After all this is what cuts your grass. The deck of a john deere is by far better than a Craftman. Also the frame is better made. Made to last. You can pay an extra $1000 and get 10 to 15 more years of life out of you lawn tractor. I am not really a john deere fan as far as lawn tractors are concerned, but do know that you are not just paying for paint. I recommend a Simplicity.

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John Fritz

07-16-1998 08:45:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Cope, 07-15-1998 08:56:07  

: : Yeah John, but what powers those two mowers? John Deere don't make the engine!
: : They got a better frame but, engine is Briggs,Kohler,or other! Peerless made drive train for A BUNCH OF THEM.You're paying for green paint,as far as a lawn tractor is concerned. Mike....

: : You're not really paying for the paint. You might ought to check the deck on the mower before purchasing. After all this is what cuts your grass. The deck of a john deere is by far better than a Craftman. Also the frame is better made. Made to last. You can pay an extra $1000 and get 10 to 15 more years of life out of you lawn tractor. I am not really a john deere fan as far as lawn tractors are concerned, but do know that you are not just paying for paint. I recommend a Simplicity.

The JD has a 12.5 hp Kohler with oil filter and overhead valves. Has about 400 hours and not even burning oil. The Craftsman has a running oil burning Briggs. It is the rest of the mower which is completely shot.

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Cope

07-15-1998 08:51:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Big Mike, 07-14-1998 18:34:04  
: : : : : : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : : Danny

: : I have a 1985 Craftsman with 38" deck and 11 hp briggs. Also have a 1990 JD STX 38. Guess which one is still running? JD of course. Have replaced the battery once and the blades and that is it. Has 400 hours on it and is not using oil yet. Craftsman has been junked out for 2 or 3 years now and had maybe 200 hours at most. Literally everything on it has given out. I'll stick to their hand tools only from now on.

: Yeah John, but what powers those two mowers? John Deere don't make the engine!
: They got a better frame but, engine is Briggs,Kohler,or other! Peerless made drive train for A BUNCH OF THEM.You're paying for green paint,as far as a lawn tractor is concerned. Mike....

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Jethro

07-13-1998 06:58:04




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  

: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny

Another name for Craftsman: Crapsman. Had one, and will be the last. Same for their tools, had pair of locking pliers (otherwise known as Vise Grips) and the teeth on the jaws couldn't take on a small machine screw. Everytime I clamped them on the screw, the teeth flattened out more!!!

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JerryU

07-13-1998 04:22:39




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  
: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny
Craftsman, Murray, MTD, Estate - and the list goes on are not tractors, but riding lawn mowers. As such they work fine on lawns. As the proud owner of a Murray, much akin to the Sears, I have had the transmission apart 3 times, replaced it, rebuilt the mower deck, replaced the bendix drve. This led me to by a Ford 9N.

I have two acres of pretty rough yard and a 150' drive of snow to plow.

Long and short - for cutting yards - about 3/4 acre or so, it would be okay but beyond that, well. Also, you will wear these out pretty fast as there are plastic and metal bushings where others have bearings and sheet metal where others have castings.

Just beware of what you are buying -this is truly one area where you get what you pay for.

JerryU

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Rich Patterson

05-27-2000 19:05:46




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to JerryU , 07-13-1998 04:22:39  
: : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : Danny
: Craftsman, Murray, MTD, Estate - and the list goes on are not tractors, but riding lawn mowers. As such they work fine on lawns. As the proud owner of a Murray, much akin to the Sears, I have had the transmission apart 3 times, replaced it, rebuilt the mower deck, replaced the bendix drve. This led me to by a Ford 9N.

: I have two acres of pretty rough yard and a 150' drive of snow to plow.

: Long and short - for cutting yards - about 3/4 acre or so, it would be okay but beyond that, well. Also, you will wear these out pretty fast as there are plastic and metal bushings where others have bearings and sheet metal where others have castings.

: Just beware of what you are buying -this is truly one area where you get what you pay for.

: JerryU

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ALBERT PALENDRAN0

04-03-2000 04:22:49




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to JerryU , 07-13-1998 04:22:39  
: : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : Danny
: Craftsman, Murray, MTD, Estate - and the list goes on are not tractors, but riding lawn mowers. As such they work fine on lawns. As the proud owner of a Murray, much akin to the Sears, I have had the transmission apart 3 times, replaced it, rebuilt the mower deck, replaced the bendix drve. This led me to by a Ford 9N.

: I have two acres of pretty rough yard and a 150' drive of snow to plow.

: Long and short - for cutting yards - about 3/4 acre or so, it would be okay but beyond that, well. Also, you will wear these out pretty fast as there are plastic and metal bushings where others have bearings and sheet metal where others have castings.

: Just beware of what you are buying -this is truly one area where you get what you pay for.

: JerryU

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FARMBOY

07-12-1998 12:27:24




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  
: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny
: I have had a Craftsman and that will also be the last. Have found that they, and this piece of information comes from a man that was in the business of professional repair for 50+ years, Sears manufactures a lot of there stuff in incremental sizes, ie. non-standard and the majority of spares have to be ordered directly from them, hence espensive to repair. My old friend Earl would ask not to work on them unless a customer really pressed him.

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Big Mike

07-13-1998 18:06:00




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to FARMBOY, 07-12-1998 12:27:24  

: : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : Danny
: : I have had a Craftsman and that will also be the last. Have found that they, and this piece of information comes from a man that was in the business of professional repair for 50+ years, Sears manufactures a lot of there stuff in incremental sizes, ie. non-standard and the majority of spares have to be ordered directly from them, hence espensive to repair. My old friend Earl would ask not to work on them unless a customer really pressed him.

I have a cousin who has a J.D.400.Good machine,but when you need parts,J.D. is only place you'll find them and they are$$$$$$$$$$

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Kk

06-20-1999 20:58:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Big Mike, 07-13-1998 18:06:00  
: : : : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : : Danny
: : : I have had a Craftsman and that will also be the last. Have found that they, and this piece of information comes from a man that was in the business of professional repair for 50+ years, Sears manufactures a lot of there stuff in incremental sizes, ie. non-standard and the majority of spares have to be ordered directly from them, hence espensive to repair. My old friend Earl would ask not to work on them unless a customer really pressed him.

: I have a cousin who has a J.D.400.Good machine,but when you need parts,J.D. is only place you'll find them and they are$$$$$$$$$$

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FARMBOY

07-14-1998 12:59:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Big Mike, 07-13-1998 18:06:00  
: : : : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : : Danny
: : : I have had a Craftsman and that will also be the last. Have found that they, and this piece of information comes from a man that was in the business of professional repair for 50+ years, Sears manufactures a lot of there stuff in incremental sizes, ie. non-standard and the majority of spares have to be ordered directly from them, hence espensive to repair. My old friend Earl would ask not to work on them unless a customer really pressed him.

: I have a cousin who has a J.D.400.Good machine,but when you need parts,J.D. is only place you'll find them and they are$$$$$$$$$$

: They may be expensive and they are, have rebuilt a 110 and a 114, both old tractors.
But I was able to rebuild them. Still able to get parts and able to make money on both of them.
Rebuild a 25 year old craftsman, including the engine and try to make money. I will admit I do not do this for a living, just for fun, but I like a hobby that will pay for itself. The wife is happier that way.
FARMBOY

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Big Mike

07-14-1998 16:57:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to FARMBOY, 07-14-1998 12:59:49  

: : : : : : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : : : Danny
: : : : I have had a Craftsman and that will also be the last. Have found that they, and this piece of information comes from a man that was in the business of professional repair for 50+ years, Sears manufactures a lot of there stuff in incremental sizes, ie. non-standard and the majority of spares have to be ordered directly from them, hence espensive to repair. My old friend Earl would ask not to work on them unless a customer really pressed him.

: : I have a cousin who has a J.D.400.Good machine,but when you need parts,J.D. is only place you'll find them and they are$$$$$$$$$$

: : They may be expensive and they are, have rebuilt a 110 and a 114, both old tractors.
: But I was able to rebuild them. Still able to get parts and able to make money on both of them.
: Rebuild a 25 year old craftsman, including the engine and try to make money. I will admit I do not do this for a living, just for fun, but I like a hobby that will pay for itself. The wife is happier that way.
: FARMBOY

Yeah, but Farmboy, you just said it. 25 years old!!!! The old tractors said Sears. The newer ones are better.You just got to remember,they are made for "Yard Only" However I've bushhogged with mine about as well as you can with a yard machine. Abused it as far as most would be concerned. Thats why Iam currantly looking for old tractor to work with. Something I can afford, but will still do what I want! Most Sunday home-owners have a yard that these machines will take care of,and don't want to pay J.D. prices!J.D. a premium machine,but when they break down, John Doe bitches about price of parts!!!!! Mike.....

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FARMBOY

07-15-1998 08:15:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Big Mike, 07-14-1998 16:57:12  
: : : : : : : : : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : : : : Danny
: : : : : I have had a Craftsman and that will also be the last. Have found that they, and this piece of information comes from a man that was in the business of professional repair for 50+ years, Sears manufactures a lot of there stuff in incremental sizes, ie. non-standard and the majority of spares have to be ordered directly from them, hence espensive to repair. My old friend Earl would ask not to work on them unless a customer really pressed him.

: : : I have a cousin who has a J.D.400.Good machine,but when you need parts,J.D. is only place you'll find them and they are$$$$$$$$$$

: : : They may be expensive and they are, have rebuilt a 110 and a 114, both old tractors.
: : But I was able to rebuild them. Still able to get parts and able to make money on both of them.
: : Rebuild a 25 year old craftsman, including the engine and try to make money. I will admit I do not do this for a living, just for fun, but I like a hobby that will pay for itself. The wife is happier that way.
: : FARMBOY

: Yeah, but Farmboy, you just said it. 25 years old!!!! The old tractors said Sears. The newer ones are better.You just got to remember,they are made for "Yard Only" However I've bushhogged with mine about as well as you can with a yard machine. Abused it as far as most would be concerned. Thats why Iam currantly looking for old tractor to work with. Something I can afford, but will still do what I want! Most Sunday home-owners have a yard that these machines will take care of,and don't want to pay J.D. prices!J.D. a premium machine,but when they break down, John Doe bitches about price of parts!!!!! Mike.....
: You are right Mike,I did complain alot when I rebuilt that first JD. And, it is probably just my bad experiences with the Sears that had soured me on them to. My current machine is not even a JD though it is a MF1655. I am located in Northern Utah Mike, you say you are looking for a tractor let me know what you want and price range. I will put out the word here. Lots of little tractors around these parts might be able to help you. Sorry , better ask where you are from. These computers, I forget just how far away you may be.

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Big Mike

07-15-1998 14:38:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to FARMBOY, 07-15-1998 08:15:01  

: : : : : : : : : : : : Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: : : : : : Danny
: : : : : : I have had a Craftsman and that will also be the last. Have found that they, and this piece of information comes from a man that was in the business of professional repair for 50+ years, Sears manufactures a lot of there stuff in incremental sizes, ie. non-standard and the majority of spares have to be ordered directly from them, hence espensive to repair. My old friend Earl would ask not to work on them unless a customer really pressed him.

: : : : I have a cousin who has a J.D.400.Good machine,but when you need parts,J.D. is only place you'll find them and they are$$$$$$$$$$

: : : : They may be expensive and they are, have rebuilt a 110 and a 114, both old tractors.
: : : But I was able to rebuild them. Still able to get parts and able to make money on both of them.
: : : Rebuild a 25 year old craftsman, including the engine and try to make money. I will admit I do not do this for a living, just for fun, but I like a hobby that will pay for itself. The wife is happier that way.
: : : FARMBOY

: : Yeah, but Farmboy, you just said it. 25 years old!!!! The old tractors said Sears. The newer ones are better.You just got to remember,they are made for "Yard Only" However I've bushhogged with mine about as well as you can with a yard machine. Abused it as far as most would be concerned. Thats why Iam currantly looking for old tractor to work with. Something I can afford, but will still do what I want! Most Sunday home-owners have a yard that these machines will take care of,and don't want to pay J.D. prices!J.D. a premium machine,but when they break down, John Doe bitches about price of parts!!!!! Mike.....
: : You are right Mike,I did complain alot when I rebuilt that first JD. And, it is probably just my bad experiences with the Sears that had soured me on them to. My current machine is not even a JD though it is a MF1655. I am located in Northern Utah Mike, you say you are looking for a tractor let me know what you want and price range. I will put out the word here. Lots of little tractors around these parts might be able to help you. Sorry , better ask where you are from. These computers, I forget just how far away you may be.

Hi,Farmboy,Thanks, but I live in Indiana. I've been looking in the sale books,find nothing close, but I'll keep looking! I have a friend who has a subscription to Fastline magazine. Guess I'll have to hit him up for latest issue when he's through with it. Mike.....

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charlie

07-12-1998 07:17:53




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 Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Danny, 07-11-1998 22:17:42  

: Not vintage, but you guys seem pretty sharp to me so see if anyone can help with this one! I've got a chance to buy a 18HP B&S commercial, 1993 yr, Craftsman 44 in. HD Garden Tractor, garage kept, excellent cond. Widow wants to sell, doesn't know what to price for and I don't know and don't want to get either of us hurt. Anyone have a ballpark figure? Thanks from KY, USA.
: Danny

i had a craftsman once and that will be my last. mine was junk!

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Don Dixon

07-12-1998 17:44:34




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to charlie, 07-12-1998 07:17:53  

KY, USA.
: : Danny

I go to a lot of auctions in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. a John Deere ,same year (1994) sitting side by side, with comparable features will bring $1500. to $2000, the Craftsman will bring $350. to $400 , know at least 10 people who have had Craftsman , tractors only one was trouble free.. and even that person says "never again" Don Dixon



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Russ

07-14-1998 22:14:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Don Dixon, 07-12-1998 17:44:34  

: KY, USA.
: : : Danny

: I go to a lot of auctions in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. a John Deere ,same year (1994) sitting side by side, with comparable features will bring $1500. to $2000, the Craftsman will bring $350. to $400 , know at least 10 people who have had Craftsman , tractors only one was trouble free.. and even that person says "never again" Don Dixon

well you guys can call me crazy, but I have a 94 crafstsman 4ws lawntractor that i mow 2 pretty rough acers with and i love it. take it for what its worth, it cost me less to maintain than my J.D (yanmar)650!

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michael

03-26-2000 05:56:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to Russ, 07-14-1998 22:14:14  
: : : KY, USA.
: : : : Danny

: : I go to a lot of auctions in Lancaster County Pennsylvania. a John Deere ,same year (1994) sitting side by side, with comparable features will bring $1500. to $2000, the Craftsman will bring $350. to $400 , know at least 10 people who have had Craftsman , tractors only one was trouble free.. and even that person says "never again" Don Dixon

: well you guys can call me crazy, but I have a 94 crafstsman 4ws lawntractor that i mow 2 pretty rough acers with and i love it. take it for what its worth, it cost me less to maintain than my J.D (yanmar)650!

danny, i have the same tractor, and i'm in need of a copy of a parts list and a visual break down of the tractor, it is in the manual, but l misplaced mine.
if you could will you send me those pages if you have them? thanks michael

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David

07-10-2003 01:15:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to michael, 03-26-2000 05:56:05  
I need to know where to buy a service manuel concerning electrical system for a craftsman 19.5 hp lawn tractor (twin cylinder) thanks to all



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Dale James

04-17-2000 18:32:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Craftsman Lawn Tractor in reply to michael, 03-26-2000 05:56:05  
I think that you guys are sure bashing Craftsman,
but the average guy is mowing his yard, not trying to pull up stumps with it. Use the mower for what it was intended and it will suit most peoples needs.



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