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Another Question For Officer Dave

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Dick L

09-27-2007 07:53:42




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I am not getting the complete picture of what is correct or not correct. I want to be in compliance and not try to figure out how to skirt the law. I also want to thank you for taking the time to answer all these questions.

I have two places 10 mile apart. When I was farming both places, both in Ohio, when moving the tractors and implements from one to the other I encountered drivers that did real dumb passes. I am sure that you have traveled from 20 on state route 49 to Edon a few times and you can not see to pass just any old place. I had people shake there fist at me and even an old lady give me the single finger wave. After I bought the ton truck and trailer I started to haul my tractors and what ever equipment that I could which included my Gleaner E combine, on it rather than drive from 10 to 15 mile an hour holding up traffic. AS stated it all was in Ohio and I was told by the inspection officer in Findlay that it was a good deal. When I built the truck I had a problem at the title office and Findlay had to get it straightened out. The officer told me to put non commercial plates on the truck and farm plates on the trailer if I stayed within 150 miles from home. Because of my collecting tractors, which the officer was advised, he said I needed commercial plates on the trailer.

Here is the question!
Due to the fact that I am only 2 miles from the Indiana line my second place could have very well been in Indiana. Which I did have before CDL. From what I gather from reading all the below posts that I would be in violation with this setup (Is this Correct?)
I have not plated the truck or trailer this year as I am not sure what is correct for where I live being so close to two other states.

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davediehl@hotmail.com

09-27-2007 08:26:57




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 Re: Another Question For Officer Dave in reply to Dick L, 09-27-2007 07:53:42  
From what I gather from reading all the below posts that I would be in violation with this setup (Is this Correct?)


Once you cross the state line, you would be in violation. You are correct.



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john in la

09-27-2007 20:28:13




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 Yet another question????????? in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 09-27-2007 08:26:57  
Dave;
Let me not only open a new can of worms; but lets dump them out on the ground and watch them crawl.

Lets use Dick L as a example. He has a 1 ton and a trailer that weighs over 10,000 lbs when loaded. He buys and sells tractors on the side. He wants to have everything correct so he gets a DOT # and thinks he is fine to go. The problem is he did not plan on coming into Indiana when he bought his truck plate.

He comes across a deal to buy a tractor in Indiana for a good price. He plans on buying it and reselling for a profit. He drives into Indiana to pick up the tractor.
Is he in violation because he did not buy a temporary Indiana permit because he does not have Indiana listed on his registration as a apportion state; Or is his Ohio plate good in Indiana?????

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davediehl@hotmail.com

09-28-2007 07:56:17




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 Re: Yet another question????????? in reply to john in la, 09-27-2007 20:28:13  
If your truck has a Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) of 26,000 pounds or greater, it is an IRP qualified vehicle. If your truck has three (3) or more axles regardless of weight, it is also IRP qualified. If you leave the State of Ohio with your vehicle, you should have either an IRP plate or a Trip Permit. A Trip Permit is secured before entering another state for each state you travel through.



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Germ

09-28-2007 08:24:30




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 Re: Yet another question????????? in reply to davediehl@hotmail.com, 09-28-2007 07:56:17  
Dave, thanks for all of your time and effort to help us out. As the others have said, the regs are confusing as written and open to interpretation. I guess we all feel uneasy without black and white readable and understandable regulations. That said, I think all of us want to be legal, and your help is truly appreciated.

My set ups, which I believe all need DOT numbers -1 tons 12,000 GVW up to 16,000 GVW and trailers from 7,000 GVW up to 10,000 GVW. Trucks all plated for 22,000 to 26,000, state of Ohio. We have fire extinguishers, triangles, and spare fuses in each truck and all of the trailers except for 1 flat bed. All of our work (contracting) is in Ohio (intrastate).

My questions -

Do we need medical cards?

Do we need to number each truck? Trailer?

Do we need to have all vehicles DOT inspected? I have been told we need this on a yearly basis.

If I go to the Portland, IN tractor show, can I take one of my company trucks for the weekend in case I find parts I would like to buy? I've avoided taking my truck in the past just because I wasn't clear on this.

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davediehl@hotmail.com

09-28-2007 18:30:03




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 Re: Yet another question????????? in reply to Germ, 09-28-2007 08:24:30  
Once your compliant for interstate transportation, you can travel to Indiana without a problem using your company truck. Each vehicle requiring numbers would need to have numbers on the side using block letters.



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davediehl@hotmail.com

09-28-2007 18:28:07




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 Re: Yet another question????????? in reply to Germ, 09-28-2007 08:24:30  
I typed in a link to the DOT site. Since I am not in your state, I don't want to quote laws that may or may not pertain to you. If you leave your state, and you qualify using the link, you will need to be fully compliant. If you go over 26,000 than you will fall under the CDL rules and regulations as well. Medicals, cab cards, logs, everything. Someone asked about Uhauls a few days ago, they have DOT numbers on each vehicle where required.

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john_bud

09-28-2007 05:46:19




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 Re: Yet another question????????? in reply to john in la, 09-27-2007 20:28:13  
How big is that spoon you are using to stir up the ....?

Apportionment ! Yikes ! I don't even want to know!

jb



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john in la

09-28-2007 06:55:36




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 Re: Yet another question????????? in reply to john_bud, 09-28-2007 05:46:19  
I "THINK" the cut off for the IRP plate is the same as the CDL; 26,000 lbs; but figured I would ask.



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