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Dave (Tx)

08-29-2007 14:38:11




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Soundguy mentioned adding electric brakes to my trailer. What are these exactly? My trailer has no brakes and I've never had much problems hauling. I don't go over 50. Also I secure my tractor by using 2(ea) cable winches (comealongs) attached to the front. These seem to make excellent "tiedowns". In the rear I use 2(ea) ratchet tie down straps. Was wondering if anything wrong with using the comealongs? They seem safer than straps. I also keep the tractor in gear and the shredded lowered to the deck of the trailer.

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Oldmax

09-05-2007 04:41:21




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 Re: More Questions in reply to Dave (Tx), 08-29-2007 14:38:11  
I think there might be two states that don"t require brakes one being KY They don"t even require Tags on 16" utility trailer. I bought my trailer in KY but orderd brakes on All 4 wheels as WV requires brakes over 3000 lbs & Ohio over 2500 lbs I would pull Any thing bigger than a 2000 lb trailer without brakes. The only times I have been stopped is 4 times in 2 years for a PUCO road check is in OH they Checked Brakes, Break-a-way, Hitch set up, Lights, and tie downs, I use chains & binders. Old I am also an old truck driver but turned in my CDL upon retirement Have no desire to drive again.

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soundguy

08-30-2007 22:47:19




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 Re: More Questions in reply to Dave (Tx), 08-29-2007 14:38:11  
Dexter is a good brand.. and you can buy hubs at tsc.. parts and magnets and controllers as well.. etc.

Brakes make a world of difference on stopping.

Let yor rear bake cyls blow on your truck one day while hauling.. your trailer will be the only thing with brakes after you pump your pedal a couple times.. had that happen to me... luckilly I was able to cruise into a parking lot and not kill anybody..

soundguy

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iowa_tire_guy

08-31-2007 04:16:43




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 Re: More Questions in reply to soundguy, 08-30-2007 22:47:19  
That's true. If you lose part of your truck brakes it is a ride no one should experience. But even when everything is working it is remarkable the difference in the feel of having trailer brakes working. Without trailer brakes the trailer is trying to pass you every time you brake and may just do it someday if you happen to be on a curve or slick road. I never thought of it too much on motorcycles until a Harley guy was telling me of needing brakes on his trailer because it was throwing him out of control when he braked on a curve.

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soundguy

08-31-2007 11:37:37




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 Re: More Questions in reply to iowa_tire_guy, 08-31-2007 04:16:43  
I was one time pulling a trailer that a buddy had loaded.. he weighted the tougue wrong an on the interstate it got to fishtailing -bad-.. by using the panic button on the brakes and releasing the gas pedal.. I got it under control and into a rest area to reload the trailer.

That issue with the rear brake cylc was harrowing though.. I had brakes when I pulled outta my house.. I hit the highway and the first redlamp i came to I stopped in the intersection.. thankfull it was very early am and no traffic. I went ahead and took the light and went left into a lowes parking lot.. then walked across the street to a jiffy and got some brake fluid. Got the brakes up enough to drive the .5 miles back home and switch trucks for the day. I later found it was my rear brak cyls blown out... Coulda been bad had I got another half mile down the road and into the city..

Trailer brakes were the only thing going on that first stop!

Soundguy

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Peavy Tx

08-30-2007 19:24:25




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 Re: More Questions in reply to Dave (Tx), 08-29-2007 14:38:11  
This is from the Texas Drivers Handbook. Trailers ,semi-trailers and pole trailers with a gross weight in excess of 4500 pounds and which do not exceed 15,000 pounds and are operated at speeds in excess of 30 miles per hour must have brakes acting on both wheels of the rear axle.

Peavy



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iowa_tire_guy

08-29-2007 19:59:29




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 Re: More Questions in reply to Dave (Tx), 08-29-2007 14:38:11  
Northern Tools has kits to put electric brakes on trailers. Check them on the web.



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RustyFarmall

08-29-2007 19:46:51




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 Re: More Questions in reply to Dave (Tx), 08-29-2007 14:38:11  
Brakes on ALL axles are now required by law in just about all states, and I'm fairly certain that the great state of Texas is NOT one of the exceptions. Even if the law didn't require brakes, I would not want to be without them.



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old

08-29-2007 16:29:37




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 Re: More Questions in reply to Dave (Tx), 08-29-2007 14:38:11  
Most newer trailers have them. And in some states once you start to haul just so much you netter have them of if you do get in a wreck you can be in big trouble. Also com-a-longs probably work well but if D.O.T. stopped you they would probably also give you a ticket and the strap same thing there. Chains and boomers are the only way to tie a load down like a tractor or at least in my book they are

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RustyFarmall

08-29-2007 19:53:01




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 Re: More Questions in reply to old, 08-29-2007 16:29:37  
Correct, those come-a-longs will NOT pass a d.o.t. inspection, and if caught using them, the fine would be way more costly than the proper equipment cost. The tractor and mower need to be secured to the trailer in such a fashion that even if the trailer turned completely up-side down, the tractor would still be fastened down right where you put it. Chains and chain binders are the only thing that will accomplish that.

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old

08-29-2007 21:45:01




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 Re: More Questions in reply to RustyFarmall, 08-29-2007 19:53:01  
Yep very true. But a person like me has to know the laws of at least the state I live in just because I still carry a Class A CDL and its a requirement that I know these things for my state



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RustyFarmall

08-30-2007 04:26:34




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 Re: More Questions in reply to old, 08-29-2007 21:45:01  
Yep, me too.



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cbp

08-29-2007 15:51:31




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 Re: More Questions in reply to Dave (Tx), 08-29-2007 14:38:11  
Both my trailers have brakes but when I first got my older (and heavier) one, I hadn't wired up the electric brakes that the mobile axles had in them. I noticed a big difference after I did in stopping. The trailer stayed inline even with a load rather than wanting to push me one way or the other by the ball. That trailer is 3100lbs and I only drove it without brakes on a temporary permit to get it home and finish it. It was night and day better with the brakes.
In this state there is a weight limit before brakes are required, don't remember exactly but it's very low. Both mine are required to have brakes and break-away switch battery operation. I'm sure that varies from state to state.

If memory serves me, my mobile style axles had a electro-magnet that would grab against a rotating plate in whatever the direction of rotation when charged. This movement would actuate standard drum brakes. I've never broken open the modern ones on my new trailer so they may be different.

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