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Alan K

09-21-1999 14:35:24

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I'm about restoring a military truck. The body metal on this truck is about twice as thick as a car body. I have limited information and no hands on welding experience. I feel I have three choices , the best but most expensive is a mig welder, $500 or maybe for half the price since I have faily thick body metal an AC-DC , 220 volt . and the least expensive is an DC - 120 volt. Would a 120 volt welder do thick body metal or are they really limited . I've never seen anybody use one. The AC-DC 220 seems to burn big holes easily in thinner metal. Thanks for any information. regards, Alan K

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John

09-21-1999 19:17:25

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Re: Welder choice in reply to Alan K, 09-21-1999 14:35:24

Oxy-acetelene or a TIG is best for thin metal. But I would sugest that you practice on scrap metal of the same thickness a lot before you do any welding on the truck. You might even think about having a professional welder do the welding for you.
John.

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Mark Kw

09-21-1999 18:28:10

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Re: Welder choice in reply to Alan K, 09-21-1999 14:35:24

I agree with Steve. Get a nice little MIG welder and try using Esab Coreshield 15 wire in .030 or .035". This wire does not require a gas shield and is very easy to use. You can drag it on the lightest of metals with no burn through and it will also work with galvanized metals. Just take proper safety precautions when welding especially on galv. metals. Wear proper equipment and stay out of the fumes! Safety first.

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John Garner

09-21-1999 19:04:29

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Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to Mark Kw, 09-21-1999 18:28:10

Mark KW -- Fancy meeting you here! John

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Pancor

09-26-1999 19:24:04

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Re: Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to John Garner, 09-21-1999 19:04:29

Yeah Mark KW! You don't go to the Toolsource boards now that they changed the format?

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Chappy

09-21-1999 15:55:51

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Re: Welder choice in reply to Alan K, 09-21-1999 14:35:24

Alan:

All the old timers did most of the body restoration projects using a Oxy-Acetyelene torch with a welding tip and rod. I have just about every type of welder available and I would still use the torch method on most repairs.

Chappy

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wayne

09-21-1999 16:32:54

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Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to Chappy, 09-21-1999 15:55:51

I use the torch and baling wire for thin steel.

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Steve

09-21-1999 15:31:48

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Re: Welder choice in reply to Alan K, 09-21-1999 14:35:24

Hi Allen,
If you want info on a wire welder to help make your decision I have posted a response to another gentleman you may want to read. It's on page 5 and posted to Leon Millers question. It's the last in a long line of re's and my name Steve appears. As far as stick welders go. About all a 120 volt stick welder is good for is thin sheet metal. It's really a glorified battery charger. If you do stick weld thin material you want to push the rod in the direction of progression. Dragging on thin material creates multiple burn-thru's. Mig does thin stuff way easier and I always say: if you can caulk a window you can wire weld. I recommend a 130 amp wire welder for sections up to 3/8". (also a 120V. machine)

U.S. Alloys/Weld Tech company

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Leon Miller

09-22-1999 10:49:11

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Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to Steve, 09-21-1999 15:31:48

Hi Steve I bought the Lincoln 155 wire welder and
like it real well. Have been welding thin wall 2"
tubing for deer feeder tripods. I am using a long
ext so elected to go with the 220 volt unit since I will have less voltage drop in the longer ext. (less current compared to 110 volt). Having better
luck with the flux wire over the gas. Was windy the day I tried gas so will give it a shot again when I have more time. Its a good unit....Leon

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steve

09-22-1999 14:40:03

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Re: Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to Leon Miller, 09-22-1999 10:49:11

Hi Leon,
Glad you like your new welder. There's one more advantage to the open arc wire that I like to tell my customers about. You can take that nozzle off since you don't need it to direct the shielding gas. Lets you see a lot better. You should still dip the contact tip in tip dip. There's a new dip called nozzle jel. It has the consistency of egg whites so it works well on cold nozzles and contact tips. You can also paint some on an area you don't want spatter to stick to and just weld right through it. I like to use it to keep my welding table smooth for grounding purposes. Have fun.

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STEVE IS A SALESMAN NOT A WELDER

09-21-1999 19:50:01

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Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to Steve, 09-21-1999 15:31:48

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WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING A SALESMAN???

09-22-1999 20:11:54

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Re: Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to STEVE IS A SALESMAN NOT A WELDER, 09-21-1999 19:50:01

And there is something wrong with being a salesman? There are good and bad salesmen just like there are good and bad welders. If the man knows what he is talking about, and it sounds like he does, more power to him.

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Steve

09-22-1999 06:41:45

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Re: Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to STEVE IS A SALESMAN NOT A WELDER, 09-21-1999 19:50:01

You can learn a lot from an old professional factory rep/welder.

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Joey

10-02-1999 10:49:24

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Welder choice in reply to Steve, 09-22-1999 06:41:45

Some of these folks think they know too much, so in turn they learn nothing. Hang in there.

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