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Welding tips, anyone?

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sparky

02-10-1999 18:34:38




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Just inherited a Lincon arc welder. Bringing it home tommorow. Have never tried to weld before. Any tips for a first-timer? Will buy a hood, and new rods on the way home.




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rodney johnson

08-10-2000 17:36:51




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
hi sparky learning is hands on, for the best part good gloves are long past the wrist, working gloves, save for handling parts, grinding. if you plan on projects get a couple of grinders, big one and small one, safty glasses are a must and work boots, when slecting a helment get one that covers your face fully, tint should be least 9, most use a 10 shade i am currently using a 9 with gold reflective, i can see really well has a more natural tone i will more likly to get a ten gold reflective,also have largest viewing help in those restrictive spaces, also i found the auto darkening helments limited in thier viewing of the work area, nice for tacking or moving around a giving structure again the cap is a must as well, wear long sleves t shirt, leather arpon, leather sleeves keep your bottons done up, burns can be nasty, when tacking i keep my safty glasses on thier rated for uv. if you burn your eyes, well its the worst, headache, feels like sand under your eye lids and stinging not a fun day at the beach lol!!! always keep the work and equiptment clean for best results, good ground clamp should be a good work out, one that stays, always disconnect the battery in any vechile, keep the area free from rags and flamables, again if your project minded set of torches are very handy, cut off saw is a good investment none of which is absolute many small shops can cut and notch parts, or equiptment rentals. all boxes or packages of rod should be dry and warm, opened boxes or packages should be in a heated enviroment untill next time they are used, for best results, slide rule can be applied here dry and warm, rod oven another good investment, was at another fab shop for hoilidays no oven, while setting the machine welded up some plate, placed the rods on the plate nothing fancy, but did the job, as my buddy ray says all the time (!!!! stay in the corner!!!) good peneration begins in the corner, welding is an art to a degree (good welds) we have seen those who have papers and certificates we still laugh :+
my buddy ray, is also my welding supervisor at work once you been at it for a while, you come to know, 25 yrs worth, no grinding after he's done, not bent or twisted, under cut, cold lap, or excessive splatter, pin holes, prosty, stick welding has its own way, like the different rods you will use as well as the materials and thier thicknesses, good tacks begin in the cornor!!!! you will come to know how materials will roll and shift and how handy good clamps are for holding them in thier place (vise grip) c-clamp ,bar clamp, vise , good tape, couple of hammers christmass is coming ;) coarse is handy, hands on classroom ,if that is not avaliable to you the local liabary perhaps, a good top surface weld is where the slag lifts off the weld. simular to peeling a banana, even in flux core this is seen, again the machine, material, rod,travel speed are in thier idea conditions, now we get to mention the chipping hammer, wire brush , chisle again good welds begin in the cornor!!! :) if beating the slag off becomes a workout elimanate the variables involved, in most cases just touching the slag with chipping hammer should be enough safty glasses :)drag the puddle never push yes even ray says thier are some conidtions where pushing is nessarry, all in good time though have some fun with it sparky :)

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Jerry

02-20-1999 15:49:11




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
Think about an autodarkening helmet. Greatest thing since sliced bread!



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John

02-22-1999 18:34:04




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 Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to Jerry, 02-20-1999 15:49:11  
Get ear plugs so sparks won't go in your ears and you won't go deaf from that damn 4 1/2 inch grinder you're going to buy. Use 1/8" 6011 rod to start. Its messy but easiest to start an arc and penetrates well. With it you can weld vertical from top down with practice. Next get 7014 the beginners perfect weld rod. For flat welds it sure looks good. 7018 rod needs DC and that cracker box don't do that. Good luck.
John

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ALTON SASAKI

01-06-2000 20:55:25




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 Re: Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to John, 02-22-1999 18:34:04  
I JUST BEGAN WELDING AND ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I
HAVE ARC WELDED STAINLESS STEEL OF ALL THICKNESS,
FROM 1/16", TO 1/8 " FLAT SHEET STAINLESS, I NEED TO GET BACK INTO THE SWING BUY GETTING THE CORRECT
ROD SIZE, FLUX, AND OPERATING AMPERAGE, AND PERCENTAGE OF POWER.



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randy in ga

09-05-1999 08:20:31




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 Re: Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to John, 02-22-1999 18:34:04  
get you mig welder it's the best thing sence sex
and better off to get a miller 250x
it's only about 2000$



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Kevin

02-17-1999 19:57:40




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
Do yourself a favor and buy the companion tool for the welder...an angle grinder. Cleans up the metal prior to welding and cleans up the mess after.(I'm fairly new at it, too) Have Fun !!!!



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Chuck in MI

02-12-1999 20:06:24




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
The most important thing is to take the time to clean your materials before you start to weld.



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Dex

02-13-1999 07:22:36




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 Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to Chuck in MI, 02-12-1999 20:06:24  
Here's a tip for you. Always think safety first. There will come a time when you've got a small weld to do, perhaps when you are in a hurry, and you'll grab your equipment to get the job done quickly. NEVER weld without gloves on!! It's surprising how easily we forget what not to touch once we've welded. You cannot explain to anyone how hot that metal becomes... it takes a "first hand" experience! (Also, a welding cap is a necessity. Those of us who are follicly challenged do not like to sport burn marks on our dome)

Good luck with your welds; hope you enjoy!

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Jim WI

02-19-1999 11:18:16




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 Re: Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to Dex, 02-13-1999 07:22:36  
(Also, a welding cap is a necessity. Those of us who are follicly challenged do not like to sport burn marks on our dome)

This also applies to those who are not follicly-challenged, unless they like the smell of burning hair!



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orangeman

02-12-1999 10:32:23




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
Enroll in a welding class at your local technical college. It doesn't cost much and you get a lot of hands on training.



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Bruce

02-12-1999 04:23:40




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
I too have never welded w/ a stick, but I do have a Lincoln SP170 MIG welder. It's great for the smaller jobs, but have been thinking about getting a stick welder too. Are these Lincoln AC-225 (225A@20%duty cycle) "Buzz boxes" any good? I saw 1 at Home Depot for $209.00
What do you guys think, should I get this one or hold out for something else. I need to repair 3pt stuff that has 3/8" - 1/2" thickness....

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sparky

02-12-1999 15:18:34




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 Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to Bruce, 02-12-1999 04:23:40  
The one I just inherited is 30+ years old. Still working good.(hope me and it both last another 30)
Sparky



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rossow (MN)

02-12-1999 05:40:08




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 Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to Bruce, 02-12-1999 04:23:40  
I've had a 225 Lincoln for more than 20 years and have used it on major projects where strong welds are of utmost concern, including a tandem-axle car trailer, two single-axle trailers, a cherry-picker engine hoist, numerous engine stands, a rear blade for my Ford 8N, a box scoop for the N, a 3-point crane, etc., etc. -- not exactly wimpy projects where a failed weld couldn't hurt anything. I have yet to find anything so heavy I couldn't weld it safely. Don't worry about the 20% duty cycle. In hundreds of hours of welding, I've never had a problem with the welder kicking off or burning up. I also have MIG and oxy-acetylene welders, but I get the most use and pleasure out of my Lincoln stick welder for mild-steel work.

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Wayne

02-12-1999 04:43:09




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 Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to Bruce, 02-12-1999 04:23:40  
It will probably weld most everything on your place. I use a lot of 7018 ac and 7014 rods for general repairs and some stainless for odd ball stuff.



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John in Pa.

02-11-1999 03:58:14




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
Sparky...good tips from Paul and al. I might add that the one thing that improved my welding the most was one of the auto-darkening helmets. They are fairly high-dollar but worth it in my opinion, as you never have a blind moment such as when pulling the hood down. You line the stinger up with the work, strike an arc and weld without even blinking your eyes. The lens darkens when the arc is struck, but before the arc light reaches your eyes!

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Wild Bill

02-11-1999 20:09:58




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 Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to John in Pa., 02-11-1999 03:58:14  
Definitely! Get one if you can. Like John says, big bucks but worth it. I love mine!



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Paul Fox

02-11-1999 03:15:07




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
Check your local school system for an Adult Education welding course. Wonderful resource, usually very inexpensive, good way to pick up on the basics. I'd never welded before either, took a course one night a week for 6 weeks, got the basics of gas welding, arc welding and MIG welding. Deal of a lifetime for me, at about $25 for the course.



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al

02-10-1999 21:11:51




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 Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to sparky, 02-10-1999 18:34:38  
Assuming it's a A.C buzz box your limited to a few
rods. I'd start with all 1/8-diam.
6011-75-120 amps, rough bead good on rusty or
dirty metal,good fo vert. down,flat,v-up use a slight whip motion [back and forth] motion to flatten bead.

6013 or 7014 - 90 to150 amps Both are similar for flat welding,vert-down with practice.Easy straight
drag motion.Steel has to be clean,have to stay
ahead of slag to avoid wormholes in bead,
produces nice bead low splatter.

7018-[AC version only !!!!] 90-140 amps Nice bead
Flat,v-up,overhead.Very strong and ductile weld
the best of the bunch.Tends to be hard to restart
the rod but this is normal.Drag this rod with slight
weave to wash bead up against the weld joint.

Uphill will come much later.

Keep all rods dry warm place, this should get you
started.

Al

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etk

04-19-2002 16:34:47




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 Re: Re: welding tips, anyone? in reply to al, 02-10-1999 21:11:51  
i have a century 70 arc welder im using 6013 rods is thare a reason my rods are sticking hey what can i say im new at this lol



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