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ChuckR

01-19-2002 07:12:11




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A couple of you recently posted about plasma cutters (and that you don't want to calculate pay back). I have been wishing for a long time, and refused to ask because I don't have enough need to justfy it, but you caught my atention.

What do you think about them? What is starting range and types for entry level and minimum quality level to even consider, etc.

Thanks for your thoughts.




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ChuckR

01-21-2002 10:29:22




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 Re: Plasma cutter in reply to ChuckR, 01-19-2002 07:12:11  
Thanks for all your help. Plasma Cutter just got much higher on my wish list.



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Rory

01-19-2002 09:52:20




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 Re: Plasma cutter in reply to ChuckR, 01-19-2002 07:12:11  
I have a thermal dynamics cutmaster 50. (around $1,400) For sheet metal to me its a must and it works great on plate up to 1/2" for clean cuts and will sever 3/4". I recently enlarged the cable slot in a winch mount for a friend (1/4" thick) and didn't even damage the paint more than 1/8" from the cut. An oxy-acetylene torch would have burned much of the paint away. This cutter does take a 50 amp service. It also needs a supply of at least 60 psi clean dry air to operate. If all you want to do is sheetmetal or thin plate you can get a smaller unit. I suggest that you go to your local welding supply and ask them to allow you to try one out. I would look for a unit that has a pilot arc. Another thing you can do with a plasma cutter is to gouge welds away. When done with care you can remove a weld almost completly. By the way thermal dynamics is a subsidiary of Thermadyne co. They also build the Victor brand of gas torches. To answer your questions:
Determine your needs: how thick of metal do you need to cut? Remember that a plasma cutter can cut anything that conducts electricity.
If you have an oxy-acetylene torch you can use the torch for larger pieces and the plasma cutter for thinner stock. If you don't have a torch outfit then I would opt for a larger plasma cutter since it can be used instead of a gas torch.(up to the limit of the plasma cutter of course)
As for cost, plasma cutters start around 900.00 and go up from there. Some have a compressor on board others need a supply of dry air (dry is very important). (mine uses less air than my impact wrench.)
The one feature I would not do without is a pilot arc.

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Rod (NH)

01-19-2002 09:48:19




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 Re: Plasma cutter in reply to ChuckR, 01-19-2002 07:12:11  
Hi Chuck

I have a Hypertherm #350, 25 amp, 230v plasma cutter. I love it. I have been wishing I had one for a long time and finally bought it last year. I probably cannot justify it on strictly economic terms though, since I am not in any business, use it only a few times a year and do not count my time as money. If I used a strict economic justification, I would have far fewer tools! The cost was about $1100, I guess actually closer to $1200.

It is a pleasure to use. For material 1/4" thick and less, it does a better job than my oxy/acet torch with less slag and post cut grinding needed. For 1/8� steel it is as near perfect as you can get�no slag and no post cut grinding�just nice smooth, clean, square edges. I have also found that it completely replaces the torch set for most automotive type work. Sheetmetal is a real breeze with no torch flames to set undercoating or wiring or other surrounding rubber parts ablaze! I have also used it to cut out automotive exhaust systems and associated fasteners�again I think easier and safer than the torch I have used in the past for this type of work.

Another thing that tipped the scales in favor for me is the fact that it can cut nonferrous materials, aluminum especially. I do a small amount of aluminum work and never had a decent way to cut sheet material other than using a jig saw�kind of a pain. Works great on 1/8� aluminum. I have an upcoming project this spring to modify my existing WeatherGuard aluminum truck box to fit around the wheel wells of my replacement truck. The plasma cutter will be ideal for that.

Going over 1/4" thick material is not, in my opinion, favorable to the plasma cutter over the stardard torch�unless you are really in a business for profit with the heavier material. For example, Lincoln�s cutter for 3/4" stock is $2500�certainly out of my league. No amount of even ease-of-use justification could justify that expenditure for my perhaps one small cut per year in such material.

Just some food for thought.

Rod

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TP from Central PA

01-19-2002 07:59:40




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 Re: Plasma cutter in reply to ChuckR, 01-19-2002 07:12:11  
I have used a plasma cutter at our Vo-tech Automotive program. It was a 115 volt model, that could cut up to 3/8"(nicely) and up to 1/4"(with a rough cut). I prefer a cutting torch for heavy stuff, but a plasma can't be beat on sheet metal and other thin materials. I also like the fact that they can cut aluminum and stainless also. The model I used was a Hyperthem(SP?) and it was a closeout so the school got it for around $900 to replace an older Hyperthem inwhich a circuit board toasted itself. I would personally look at a Miller Plasma myself, they build a good machine!

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Mark Kw

01-19-2002 12:42:26




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 Re: Re: Plasma cutter in reply to TP from Central PA, 01-19-2002 07:59:40  
While the big boys like Hypertherm and Thermal Dynamics and Miller have the market share of name recognition, other lesser known names like Marquette produce excellent equipment at a much lower price.

I picked up a 90 amp 3 phase Marquette from SWSI new in the box for 600 bucks. Great machine, have cut to 1.250" in AR plate and .750" in aluminum without a problem. Very clean cuts on 3/4"< steel and 1/2"< Al. Common consumables readily available at reasonable prices along with all other components such as the torch handle and leads.

HT and TD have good units but expect to pay, pay, pay for them up front and for consumables. Been using this Marquette almost daily for over 3 years with not one hint of trouble. I rarely work on metals under 1/4" most common is 1/2"+ so if you're wondering about the use this unit is seeing, it's earning its keep quite well.

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01-19-2002 12:44:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Plasma cutter in reply to Mark Kw, 01-19-2002 12:42:26  
here's the link I was supposed to put on the above post... Mark Kw



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01-20-2002 08:07:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Plasma cutter in reply to forgot the link..., 01-19-2002 12:44:44  
In the above post I stated $600 as the price of the plasma unit. This was a typo on my part and should have read $900. Sorry about that.
Mark Kw



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