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Bolt up vs. Weld up

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Cody N.E.Tex

01-12-2002 20:47:17




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Planning on building a 30'X50'X12'metal shop. Can't decide on a bolt up kit or buying the components and welding it up . What are your experiences / opinions ..... pro and con ..




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BB

01-14-2002 04:52:10




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 Re: Bolt up vs. Weld up in reply to Cody N.E.Tex, 01-12-2002 20:47:17  
Cody - I am also in N Texas and put up a Mueller Steel building 2 years ago. They had some standard prefab kits at good prices. But I wanted some things a little different. Mine is 30'x40' with 10' walls and 4-12 pitch roof. Fully insulated, two 10'x 10' roll up doors, 1 walk thru door, and 3 windows. It also has 2' eave extensions. It was a prefab kit. Everything bolts together except the sheet metal and it used drive screws. Worked out great. I had an experienced contractor lay the slab and I had help putting up the structural frame and putting up the roof sheets. Otherwise I did all the work myself. I put in a small bathroom complete with shower.
Weldup is cheaper but more work as I understand it. Boltup cost more, but everything just bolts right together.
Word of caution. Make sure your slab is square and the anchor bolts correctly positioned. Check the measurements yourself. Mine came out correct except for one bolt. Even though I had made some templates to hold them in place, one moved a little when pouring the concrete. I had to torch out one bolt hole about a half inch.

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ShepFL

01-13-2002 18:15:05




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 Re: Bolt up vs. Weld up in reply to Cody N.E.Tex, 01-12-2002 20:47:17  
Cody -
I am finishing a similar barn myself as I type. 30x60x14 with 12' clear sidewalls. Bldg is from Millenium Steel. It was a kit and a PITA at that!!

Since I have had mine I would still suggest a kit but one that has majority of fittings WELDED. Then construction is MUCH easier only having to connect girts and purlins. Steel Building Systems out of GA makes a dam fine bldg - should I ever expand mine or get another that is who I going with. JMHO!!

Drop me an email if would like to discuss items to watch out for in a kit building or this entire ADVENTURE!!!
ShepFL

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paul

01-14-2002 22:17:08




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 Re: Re: Bolt up vs. Weld up in reply to ShepFL, 01-13-2002 18:15:05  
I'd love to hear the adventure, either here or in an e-mail.

I'm thinking (have any of you heard that before? Couple years before I can 'afford', but I'm thinking...) of putting up a shed myself, & like to hear how it's done - or not done. :)

--->Paul



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T_Bone

01-12-2002 21:44:10




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 Re: Bolt up vs. Weld up in reply to Cody N.E.Tex, 01-12-2002 20:47:17  
Hi Cody,

If your site building then frame joint weld would be faster with SM screws with nepahrene washers for sheeting. The screws are super expensive about $.35/eh in quanitys the last time I checked. You could plug weld the sheeting but it takes alot of time and doesn't look that well if you don't finish the welds. Very time consuming.

Can you actually beat the price of a kit?

Do you have a building code where your at? If you do then you need engineered building plans for the County engineer before he'll issue a building permit. Some County engineers will still look at your drawings and make suggestions and issue a permit but thats becoming a rare sight.

T_Bone

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yeah

01-12-2002 22:27:55




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 Re: Re: Bolt up vs. Weld up in reply to T_Bone, 01-12-2002 21:44:10  
some County engineers are a pain in the A**..



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VaTom

01-13-2002 15:13:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Bolt up vs. Weld up in reply to yeah, 01-12-2002 22:27:55  
Might be worth asking if there is a special category for "farm buildings" if you're having trouble. Here, the permit costs $25 for up to 40,000 sq ft. No inspections other than setback. If it falls on your head, your worry. Works for me. Not that I'd try to weld a building together but this way I could build a post&beam from my timbers off the sawmill. No grading necessary.



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