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Mother's Used Oil Heater

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Richard

01-05-2002 05:59:25




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Update on Mother Earth's Used Oil Heater.

Built one of these yesterday following the instructions that were provided. We test fired it before it was 100% complete. The "only" thing that was missing was the funnel over the burner.

Even though it was not finished, it drafted excellent with no back draft. We used Marvel Mystery Oil as fuel by the drop. Within 2 or 3 minutes the outside shell was over 950 F. She did smoke pretty good but I think the funnel and some tuning will correct that and generate more heat as well.

Made the funnel, mounted it, caulked up any cracks, painted it, and will give a full test today with some good ole used motor oil.

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Nolan

01-08-2002 04:11:45




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 Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard, 01-05-2002 05:59:25  
Thanks Richard! I'd always wanted to hear from someone else how well that system worked. I wasn't willing to build one myself and see. :-)



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Neal in Nm

01-07-2002 21:46:09




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 Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard, 01-05-2002 05:59:25  
I don't understand something. The funnel over the fire leads directly into the space you are trying to heat! What keeps the fumes from going up the funnel into the room? I would also like to know what the tip of the nozzle looks like and how far from the top pan it should be. Thanks, Neal



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Richard - Followup

01-05-2002 13:08:18




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 Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard, 01-05-2002 05:59:25  
It's only in the 50's here today, but it seemed to generated a lot of heat. The hardest thing is to get the oil dripping consistently. I'm using gravity feed to it and I mixed 1 gallon of diesel to 5 gallons of motor oil. Next weekend, I will probably put the oil into a drum and put a few pounds of air on it to feed the heater. The shop we put it in is a 40x60 and you couldn't stand within 8 feet of it without backing up, nice and toasty. I don't think it compares to my Reddy 110,000 forced air but it's "ALOT" less noise.

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Gary

01-05-2002 13:57:50




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 Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard - Followup, 01-05-2002 13:08:18  
Richard how can i get plans for the Mothers oil stove. Thanks



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Bigdog

01-05-2002 13:47:59




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 Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard - Followup, 01-05-2002 13:08:18  
Richard, I remember reading about the used-oil stove in M.E. News years ago. Is this the same stove and are the plans still available? Where can I get them?



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Redtractorman

01-05-2002 07:53:05




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 Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard, 01-05-2002 05:59:25  
Please leave follow up info,I plan on building one of these burners for my shop and would be interested in knowing how big of an area it heat and any other info.Thanks



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TB

01-05-2002 15:51:13




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 Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Redtractorman, 01-05-2002 07:53:05  
Hear you go.



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Bigdog

01-06-2002 04:32:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to TB, 01-05-2002 15:51:13  
Thank you!



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TreeEm

01-06-2002 14:45:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Bigdog, 01-06-2002 04:32:33  
I would also like to build one of these heaters but from the plans available on the net above it's not clear how the oil feed piping is arranged above the burner assembly.
Is there a oil drip nozzle? The 6" steel plate and the fry pan appear have holes what size and spacing. Also this stove may need frequent cleaning has anyone built this stove who could share its actual performance history. The stove infomation states 21,000 Btu..... ... that not a lot of output.

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Richard

01-06-2002 17:20:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to TreeEm, 01-06-2002 14:45:06  
I drilled 3/8" holes everywhere, nothing that was science thats for sure. They didn't give any specs at all on that part. The oil feeds into the coil (preheater) then drips down the center of the intake dripping on the center of the top frying pan. When adjusted, she doesn't smoke very bad at all. I can garantee she does much more than 21,000 BTU, the more oil, the hotter she gets, just remember to install a ball valve for the main shut off, then a needle valve to adjust the flow. This way, once you have it tuned, you can shut off the ball valve when your done with the heater, and you don't mess up your adjustment. I had a hard time getting oil to flow smoothly so I diluted my oil with diesel just to see and it worked much better. I think if it's really cold out, you may have a hard time flowing the used oil.
For my test, I ended up burning around 2.5 - 3.0 gallons in about 6 hours.(over twice the recommended rate). It takes a lot of tinkering to get it tuned but you know when it's right because it roars and the smoke almost disappears out the stack.

Do not used rivets on your sheet metal, they will last about 2 minutes. Be sure to use some good sheet metal screws on the funnel. Also, get a real hot fire going before you turn on the oil, if you don't, she won't do anything but smoke real bad and will burn too cold to ever get going.
A coffee cup full of diesel in the burner does the trick nicely.

I think, this heater can be improved on even more by using some compressed air and some sort of oil mist, like maybe a parts washing gun.

We used to make radiator heaters from 4" pipe zig zagging back and forth and use a parts washing gun and diesel, man you talk about heat!! But diesel was less than 50 cents a gallon then, but I bet used oil would work as well.

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chris mf-35

01-07-2002 17:11:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard, 01-06-2002 17:20:35  
how much gap did you have between the funnel and burner? the way i read the plans this is how they adjusted the burn pattern after setting the drip rate. i have worked in a shop with a commersal unit, if it's smoking out the stack the the flame is not hot enough. setting the burner closer to the funnel would force more air into the burner causing a hotter flame. what if the burner was mounted so it was easly adjustable in hight so the heat output could be adjusted without the smoking problem. just some of my ideas, don't know if it will work. what does everyone else think?

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TreeEm

01-07-2002 15:00:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to Richard, 01-06-2002 17:20:35  
Thanks for the performance response. Can an auto filter be installed and fed by gravity to filter the oil at the reservoir tank. I would expect that the oil needs to be absolutely free of debris to get the right drip feed. I also find that most electric hot water heater tanks are tall and of a smaller diameter than that stated within the article and assume the older heaters were fatter and lower. Can I use the newer style? What did you use. Looks like I have another project.

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Tim McCollum

01-09-2002 20:52:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to TreeEm, 01-07-2002 15:00:30  
The short heaters are usually used as under counter types in premium space housing,apts.,condos.,etc. Are you checking a dump in a small town or large city? The small slim tank should work just fine,except you'll double the cost after you spend another $36. for a ladder so your short friends can stay warm!



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Richard

01-07-2002 19:42:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mother's Used Oil Heater in reply to TreeEm, 01-07-2002 15:00:30  
It was 16" OD by 40" tall.



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