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Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil

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Crank

01-03-2002 06:43:20




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I have a Toro 100,000 BTU forced air heater. The data plate on it says that I can use kerosene or #1 heating oil. All I've ever used is kerosene. How well does the #1 fuel heat compared to kerosene? Will it damage my heater? Is the fumes and smell worse? Can I use #1 diesel instead? Will #1 fuel oil work in my Kerosun (wick type) kerosene heaters? Kerosene is costing me about $2 a gallon. I just found out I can get bulk #1 fuel oil for less than $1 a gallon. I don't want to buy a 55 gallon drum of it if I might have problems with it.

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#1 is Stove oil,#2 is Furnace oil...by Woodbeef

01-03-2002 16:09:36




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 Re: Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil in reply to Crank, 01-03-2002 06:43:20  
I use to drive a peddle truck in the 80s in Michigan. #1 diesel is also called Stove oil,#2 is also called Furnace oil. #1 is more refined and has the parrafin removed,so it burns cleaner. #1 can be used in something designed for #2,but not vicea-versa.

Kerosene is even further refined and I think is considered a flamable,not a combustable. Be careful with it if you spill it,it will leave a nasty rash if you do not change clothes. I know,been there done that!!

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JoeK NOT IN KEROSUN

01-03-2002 10:57:13




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 Re: Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil in reply to Crank, 01-03-2002 06:43:20  
Wick type kerosene heaters are designed for K1 kerosene only.Or synthetic fuel made for them.I had to replace $40+ worth of wicks in my Kerosuns last year after fuel supplier screwed up and put
ni 1 in his Kero tank.It screws up the wicks and does not burn cleanly and safely.Around here Kero is 2.45 this year,but only 1.85 35 miles away(in your can)....From what I've seen most torpedo type heaters can handle No1 fuel oil,but I'd be very leery of diesel,as alot of it has additives these days,and who knows what they do when cooked into your shop air??

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Lars

01-03-2002 09:14:50




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 Re: Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil in reply to Crank, 01-03-2002 06:43:20  
The only apparent problem using #1 diesel is increased fumes. It seems dirtier compared to kerosene. Health or safety wise I am not sure if this is an issue. I believe it may be partly a function of how often the air is exchanged. Otherwise, my portable forced air heater runs fine on #1 diesel.

I suggest calling the manufacturer and their competitors for input on safety and technical issues regarding the use of #1 diesel.

Lars

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Greg S

01-03-2002 09:10:19




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 Re: Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil in reply to Crank, 01-03-2002 06:43:20  
Crank,
In looking through some books on heating fuels it looks like #1 diesel and kerosene are pretty similar in burning characteristics. The key factor is the volatility (easy vaporization at low temperatures). Kerosene has a higher volatility but in a forced burner the #1 diesel will work. The wick type burner may have a problem with the diesel burning and it would probably be a liitle smokier. No. 1 diesel and #1 fuel oil are basically the same except diesel also has a cetane number which is kind of like the octane number for gasoline- only for diesel the lower the cetane number the better. Might just buy 5 gal of #1 diesel or beg some off a trucker buddy and try it. HTH

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bmlivesay

12-03-2005 10:52:55




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 Re: Re: Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil in reply to Greg S, 01-03-2002 09:10:19  
can I burn 31 in my salamander heater {bullet} ?
and is it as good ? mick



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Ray

01-03-2002 07:07:04




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 Re: Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil in reply to Crank, 01-03-2002 06:43:20  
What is the difference between #1 fuel oil and diesel? I tried to use Diesel in my 155,000 forced air heater and it would light for a couple seconds then just spray out unburnt fuel mist.



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paul

01-03-2002 14:39:31




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 Re: Re: Kerosene versus #1 Fuel Oil in reply to Ray, 01-03-2002 07:07:04  
There are 2 kinds of diesel fuel. Number 1, or winter; and number 2, or summer fuel. You probably were trying number 2, which is, um, thicker for lack of a better word.

Nuber 1 fuel oil & diesel are about the same thing, diesel might have some engine additives but around here in farm country with my farmer-owned coop oil company, they only have number one or number two, doesn't matter if you call it heating fuel or engine diesel.

There is more energy in a gallon of #2, it is cheaper, and it lubricates & cools a diesel engine better, but below 25 degrees or so it starts gelling up, so we in Minnesota at least blend, or run straight #1 in engines in cold months.

For a heater, use what the label says. My house furnace can use either 1 or 2, since the tank is in the basement so it doesn't get sub-zero & gell up. Torpedo heaters can often use kero or #1, but #1 will smell worse. Wicks will only work with kero that I know of.

Kero is thin.
#1 is thicker, diesel or oil.
#2 is thickest, diesel or oil.
Diesel works in a heater or motor, fuel oil may be missing some additives for a motor.

--->Paul

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