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F14

01-01-2002 09:36:06




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Need a new greasegun. My old one (cartridge type) kept getting airlocked, and I'd have to unscrew the hose, put my thumb over the hole, reprime it and get 2-3 squirts out of it and then have to reprime it again, etc. Did it to me once too often on a bad hair day, and is now somewhere in Low Earth Orbit.

Are there any cartridge greaseguns that don't do that? Are the air powered guns worth the bucks? Any advice on brands or sources? I'd much prefer the convenience of cartridges, but the older I get, the less patience I have with tools that don't work...

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Greaseman

01-17-2002 09:29:15




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
I've purchased my greasegun's from Central tractor (about $15) and never had any trouble except that they get emptied far to quick. I bought a 5 gallon bucket of grease from C/T and had used 3/4 in one month. I decided to purchase it in skids of 5 gallon buckets ( 15-5 gallon buckets)instead. Otherwise I'm always running out. No wonder I'm called the "Greaseman"



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Trucker

01-12-2002 02:46:55




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
Ive had fairly good luck with a cheap cartridge gun from wal mart.Just unscrew it a ways to let the air out before you start and pump a whole cartridge without any trouble.Its not wore out yet and Ive used it about 3 years.I dont think it is as good as some that Ive used like from NAPA though for getting something to take grease,but if it takes grease easy it is allright.I think its called a Alemite or something like that.

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Jeremy

01-07-2002 18:09:21




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
I don't know what brand it is, but NAPA has one that I've been wanting to check out for a while now. It is a heavy duty gun that is made to where if you take a full stroke on the handle, it pumps high volumes of grease at low pressure, but if you only take 1/2 strokes on the pump, it pumps low amounts of grease at very high pressure. It would be perfect for those stubborn zerks. Like I said, I don't know what brand it is, but I think it was USA made. They also have a great 4 jaw brass nozzle that's supposed to stay on the zerk until you cock it sideways and pull. I have an old cheap aluminum 3 jaw that does the same and plan on replacing it with the brass one if it ever wears out. The only reason I haven't check out that gun from NAPA is the fact that I have my great uncle's grease guns from when he worked in the oil field as a well checker/pump servicer. I got em after they sat in his garage after 20 years (he died 20 some odd years ago), and they work like new ones. My main gripe is the cheap Phillips 66 grease I put in them... the stuff is oozing out all over the place. AVOID Phillips 66 EP-2 grease, unless you want red oil everywhere! Good luck! -Jeremy

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Wildbill

01-03-2002 07:40:19




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
Check out a cordless electric grease gun if you get a chance. Lots of pressure, one hand operation, and portable. They are a little pricey, but they are very easy to get used to. Bill



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Mac

01-02-2002 16:10:50




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
Lots of good pointers on this subject. I have hung my greasegun by the T handle for years and dont have any airlock problems. Maybe just lucky??



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RayP(MI)

01-02-2002 14:31:44




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
In answer to your query about air powered guns, I have one, powered by a standard home compressor which tops put at about 120#. In cold conditions, or when there's need for pressure to force grease into the bearing or whatever, it just doesn't do the job. I can get more pressure out of a hand powered one. My reson for getting the air powered one, was so that I could hold the nozzle against the zerk with one hand, while using the trigger with the other - something you can't do with a hand pumped unit. I'm disappointed!

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F14

01-02-2002 15:08:33




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 Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to RayP(MI), 01-02-2002 14:31:44  
That's about what I figured, thanks for confirming my suspicions. I've about settled on an Amelite 550, which is a pistol-grip with a flexible hose. I have the same problem you do, not enough hands to hold the nozzle, hold the gun, and pump the handle. The pistol grip only puts out 4500 psi, vs. 10,000 for the regular handle type, but with regular maintenance, I don't run into a lot of plugged zerks. Probably will now, tho... ":^(

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Frank

01-02-2002 18:02:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-02-2002 15:08:33  
F14, you might look at the linkage on the pistol grip. I'm not sure which model of Alemite, but some of them have a high pressure, or a high volume setting. This looks like a nice feature. I've never used them but we sell them at the store where I work.



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VaTom

01-02-2002 15:08:29




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 Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to RayP(MI), 01-02-2002 14:31:44  
Wow, did you take it back to the store? I feed 90# into my gun and it'll shoot grease across the shop. Keeps the help awake. Even the deformed zerks that are a problem with a hand gun get greased. I wanted something that would let me draw from a bucket and, as you say, let you have a free hand for the nozzle. Anybody greasing backhoes or anything else with a LOT of zerks (my deuce and a half) knows about how far a tube will go. I do have a hand gun to take to the field and it gets filled from a bucket too. All too often.

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Ron

01-02-2002 08:03:39




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
Don't be a "Wuss", and get a bucket of grease and use the gun you have Without the cartridge.... It is a LOT cheaper, and if you get air in it, you have yourself to blame.. I cannot understand anyone who has a tractor, and don't want to get their hands dirty...!!!! Ron.



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F14

01-02-2002 11:24:05




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 Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to Ron, 01-02-2002 08:03:39  
Got nuthin' against getting my hands dirty, just ask the wife.

Got better things to do with my time than fuss with a cranky greasegun, however.



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ROD

01-02-2002 07:46:17




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
MOST HAND HELD MANUAL GREASE GUNS HAVE A T-BAR ON THE END THAT HAS TO BE PULLED OUT AND LOCKED IN ORDER TO PUT A NEW CARTHIAGE IN, BUT WHAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS THAT WHEN THE GUN IS RE-ASSEMBLED AND THE T-BAR IS UNLATCHED, YOU SHOULD TURN THE T-BAR WHILE PUSHING IN UNTIL IT LATCHES INTO THE PLUNGER THAT PUSHES THE GREASE INSIDE THE TUBE. AFTER IT LOCKES, PUSH IN ON THE T-BAR WHICH PUSHES THE PLUNGER AND THUS PUSHING THE GREASE AND ELIMINATING THE AIR AS WELL. WHEN THE GUN IS PRIMED SIMPLY TURN THE T-BAR UNTIL IT UNLATCHES AND PUSH IT ALL THE WAY IN. THIS CAN BE USED WHEN IT GETS AIR LOCKED TOO. ONE THING THAT HELPS THE AIR LOCK PROBLEM IS TO STORE THE GREASE GUN UPSIDE DOWN. HOPE THIS HELPS.

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DumOleBob

01-01-2002 20:38:28




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
Thanks for having the...."nerve"...to ask that question. I was always embarassed to let people know how dumb I am when it comes to greese guns! Mine never "air lock" until they know I am in a hurry or it's really cold or wet outside. Somehow they know! Also they are much more inclined to lock when they have a nearly full tube of greese. The thinking is, "the more wasted greese & $ the better".There has GOT to be a better way!

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Bus Driver

01-01-2002 17:35:56




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
The no-name Taiwan guns are a waste of money. Buy well known brand, such as Alemite. May be imported, but are better quality. The airlock may be related to the storage of the grease cartridges. Store them vertically with the pull tab down. Any movement of the grease while in storage will be to move the air to the other end- away from the pump. The space at the follower end (plastic slip-on cap) also allows for saving the bit of grease that remains in the old cartridge.

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VaTom

01-01-2002 13:12:06




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 Re: Greaseguns in reply to F14, 01-01-2002 09:36:06  
I really like my air grease gun that draws from a 5 gal pail. Put a 20' hydraulic hose on it and it reaches anywhere. At $600-800 they don't belong in my neighborhood but I found one at a car garage for $50. Asked why they didn't want it and was told there wasn't much to grease on cars anymore. Sure beats disposing of all those cartridges. Keep your eyes open.



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Mark Kw

01-01-2002 14:04:16




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 Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to VaTom, 01-01-2002 13:12:06  
I'll second Tom in looking for a can unit second or third hand but be careful to not buy a piece of crap.

For hand guns, I like the pistol grip Lubrimatic ones. They'll air lock from time to time but not too often. At about $16 brand new, add a 36" extention hose and you have one of the handiest things around for GP work.

For medium duty work, a tube type air powered gun is handy but will run you around 90 bucks for a good one (Alemite). Had nothing but trouble with Lincoln brand ones and will not even consider them anymore.

On the heavy duty side an Alemite 50:1 barrel mounted air grease pump will set you back around $1400

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RJ

01-01-2002 18:06:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to Mark Kw, 01-01-2002 14:04:16  
If the sky is the limit on money, definetly go with Graco pumps and your choice of grease. I work in a shop in which we have 2 Graco units. In the 7 years I've been there, we have not had one bit of trouble with them, and they require little maintenance. Hope this helps.



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TP from Central PA

01-01-2002 16:20:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to Mark Kw, 01-01-2002 14:04:16  
I have got a Lincoln Pistol pump job, it worked a heck of alot better than the Lubrimatic I got given to me when it was brand new(other owner didn't like it either). I like the hand grease guns, they are far more portable than the air grease guns that feed out of a drum. We recently got a air powered Lincoln tube type grease gun at the farm, I haven't got the hose on it yet to try it, but it looks like a good gun.

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cannonball

01-02-2002 06:34:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to TP from Central PA, 01-01-2002 16:20:54  
have two air lincolns love them..i leave the last round of threads loose on my guns never air lock



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RB/CT

01-01-2002 17:49:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Greaseguns in reply to TP from Central PA, 01-01-2002 16:20:54  
Good advice on grease guns. Just a thought. I bought some Amalie grease the other day, (I like their products), and noticed a new semi synthetic grease out by them. Next time I just might try semi synthetic grease. Synthetic oils and grease seem superior.



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