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Welding Rod Selection?

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Dean

12-20-2001 04:49:37




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Im going to narrow up a 1ton ford rear end.Im removing a pc out of the axel tube,then going to weld back together.What would be the correct rod to use on my ac buzz box?I use 6011 all the time and was wondering if that would be best? The tube is about 3 1/4 od with 3/8" wall thickness,and I have a weld chamfer.Also there will be no loads hauled.It will be in a restored stock car. Thank you Dean

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Bob Smith

12-20-2001 10:55:29




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 Re: Welding Rod Selection? in reply to Dean, 12-20-2001 04:49:37  
A 6013 is a good choice and is a good rod to use in less than clean conditions (thats why it's know as a framers rod or dirt rod) The way to aline a axle tube on a narrowing job is to use a piece of round solid stock with the O.D. size that matches the I.D. of the bearings in the rear end you then put the bearings in the axle tubes and housing, slide the solid stock thru the bearings push the axle tubes up tight and tack weld in four spots around the tube weld a inch on one side then the other side of the tube alternating back and forth untill it is fully welded all the way around this prevents the tube from being drawn out of aline by the heat as you weld the tube up. The larger the solid stock the better but then you will need to have disks machined to take the place of the bearings, I use a 2" solid rod and have several different size's of disks for several different types of rearend's but for one rear end a solid bar the same size of the bearing I.D will hold everything in perfect alinement and being patient with your welding so not to pull things out of aline by to much heat on one side you will end up with a professional job. Have done many Dana 44's 60's and 70's for jeeps and off roaders.
Bob Smith

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Dean

12-20-2001 05:43:35




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 Re: Welding Rod Selection? in reply to Dean, 12-20-2001 04:49:37  
Thank you for the quick response T-Bone I will be working on it today.Happy Holidays Dean



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T_Bone

12-20-2001 05:07:56




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 Re: Welding Rod Selection? in reply to Dean, 12-20-2001 04:49:37  
Hi Dean,

You can use 6011 without any problems or try some 6013 at about 15amps hoter than normal. This keeps slag inclusions to a minmium. Clean the metal back atleast 1" on either side of weld zone. On your groove, leave about 3/32" to 1/8" land, land the area that will not be tapered on the groove at the inside of the pipe face.

A piece of 1-1/2" angle iron works well for pipe alignment.

T_Bone

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Thurlow

12-20-2001 06:13:30




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 Re: Re: Welding Rod Selection? in reply to T_Bone, 12-20-2001 05:07:56  
I agree with T_Bone; personally like 6013 better than 6011. 'Course I'm just a dirt farmer; not professional welder. To align axles, I've had good luck removing tires and using just rims; use a piece of 6" channel (must be straight)long enough to reach all the way across new axle. Set rims down into channel; when rims touch at all 8 points (4 for each rim), axle will be straight.



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Cliff Neubauer

12-20-2001 09:12:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Welding Rod Selection? in reply to Thurlow, 12-20-2001 06:13:30  
The 6013 rods are easier to use but the 6011 is a deep penetrating rod so it is alot better choice for thicker metal, it also works much better when welding out of position.



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Moonlite

12-20-2001 14:15:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Welding Rod Selection? in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 12-20-2001 09:12:55  
Since you are more familiar with the 6011 it would be your best choice. If you do not weld every day you will doubtfully be familiar with more than one rod. This is of more importance than the characteristics of the rod at this stage of the game. Operated welding shop for 14 years and taught welding for twelve years. Good Luck



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