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Mobile home axels and tires, will they hold?

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Nick

12-17-2001 17:14:37




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Im planning on building a 20 foot gooseneck flatbed trailer this spring, and I have heard some lore about trailer tires coming off the rims and such on many homemade trailers. Is this true? I plan on taking this thing at somewhat interstate speeds so i want to be sure. thanx Nick




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Richard

12-22-2001 04:47:48




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
I'm not sure about all the comments on the mobile home tires and axles but my neighbor has a tandem axle trailer we use in the community on a very regular basis. We haul anywhere from 5-7 tons of rock on it and it has never had a problem. The frame is 2-7/8" oilfeild tubing and it just keeps going and going.

When I was a kid, being broke all the time, I would get mobile home tires and put on my Bonneville, it was never "slow" speed in those days. Darn tires out lasted any other tires I ever had!

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A. D.

12-19-2001 20:10:11




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
Mobile home tires and axles should hold up well. They are not throwaway tires and will last a decent amount of time. Most are 10 or 12 ply. They have a load capacity in pounds printed on the side of the tire. See if it has the capacity of the Low Boy style tires. They have DOT numbers on them so they can be used on the hiway, but the question is how can they be used. Do they have to be used on a mobile home to be legal? Don't know. I do see a lot of trailers come in my shop that use mobile home axles and tires with NO trouble. The tires are not that rare, they are 14.5 inch. You will pay about the same amount for a 15 or 16 inch tire of the same load capacity.

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Craig

12-18-2001 02:57:04




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
Nick,
I have a car trailer made with mobile axles and electric brakes. I went to my local truck tire service center and they had those odd sizes that go on those rims. I replaced the tires with good trailer tires and have rolled many miles down the interstate fully loaded with no problems.

Craig



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Thurlow

12-17-2001 21:44:25




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
This doesn't answer your question, but offer an alternative. I bought 2 rear ends from 1 ton trucks from local salvage yard. Ring gear/pionion had been removed and sold. Paid $30.00 each. Cut out "chunk" and spliced with appropiate size pipe. Bought springs/equalizers etc from trailer manufacturer. Wound up with 27' flatbed with dual tandems. Vacuum/hydraulic breaks, which I personally like better than electric. 4' dovetail....will haul pretty much anything I can get on it.

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Thurlow

12-17-2001 21:48:56




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 Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Thurlow, 12-17-2001 21:44:25  
brakes, not breaks



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bcPA

12-17-2001 20:20:20




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
I have a 1996 hudson deckover 16 ft plus 3 ft beaver tail with dexter axles. The tires and wheels are interchangeable with mobile home tires and wheels. I too am curious what would happen if caught out on the road running a mobile home spare to get home after a flat. I do believe one is supposed to comply with tire brands as per manufacturer according to the fed dot. In effect if it says mobile home use only on the side of the tire then its not acceptable any where else. But if the tire says mobile home or M H on it and they left out the word only, then I suspect a 500 dollar lawyer might get you off for not buying a 80 dollar tire. just my thoughts on the subject.

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paul

12-17-2001 20:04:43




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
Are you asking legally or 'in real use'?

The tires will not hold up, they are built as throw-aways and do not handle normal highway speeds. Period.

The rims are an odd size so it is difficult to find cheap good tires for them. The hubs/rims are obvious to be mobile home deals, and will draw the attention of DOT. You do not want this attention.

Axles seem to do ok, altho there may be some DOT issues with them as well.

Legally, you are asking for trouble. In the real world, the rubber won't hold up, the rims need torq attention, and the axles often are quite good.

Here in Minnesota there is a farm exemption, don't need to licence a trailer if it hauls farm items & stay off the interstates, so you see a lot of mobile home trailers for hay & etc.

For your intentions, I would be nervious about the legal issues.

--->Paul

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Merlin

12-17-2001 19:29:19




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
I don't know about the legality of the axles. My main trailer has mobile home axles under it and works well. I am very careful about frequently checking the lug nut torque with a torque wrench. Having said that, if there is any way to afford trailer axles I would go for them. (Around here the trailer axles of equal capcity 6000# go for about $750 per axle with tires and brakes.) Many mobile home axles get bent delivering the house and this is hard to detect until you get them under the trailer and the tires are wearing. Also, unless you can find some 8 1/2 foot axles its a big job to shorten the longer ones. Tires: unless you drive slow (60 mph or less) the mobile home tires will not hold up. You must buy lowbow tires, so there is not a cost saving on tires. Hope this helps.

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Mike

12-17-2001 18:57:48




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
The price of commercial built trailers has come down alot in recent years.You might shop around
a welder friend of mine says he can buy them cheaper than making them himself.But he does have
to figure in labor. If you are going to build one
yourself do yourself a favor and spend a little on good axles,preferably oil bath bearings.I have
used house trailer axles in past I got along with
the rim problem by using a torque wrench,putting
the wedges in the right way,and double and triple
checking the bolt torque after running it a few times. The main problems I had were,brakes not
built heavy enough and spring shackles pounding
out,mobile home tires not good enough.

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Heavy Metal

12-17-2001 17:30:33




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
I have a 16 foot flatbed with mobile home axles on it that I made. That thing will haul ANYTHING you can get on it. I have hauled 8 (eight)6x5 bales on mine without any trouble. I approximate 1400 lbs each. Also hauled a 7000-8000 lb tractor...no trouble at all.



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Branden

12-17-2001 21:26:55




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 Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Heavy Metal, 12-17-2001 17:30:33  
My dad has one similar to yours. 16 ft. MH rims, tires, w/ narrowed axles. The tire plies are there for the weight to haul loads. He uses it mostly for wood, and hauling his Farmall-H around. The thing I hate with these is that it seems like you have to carry 2 spare tires with you where ever you go. Must be because they are bias ply tires and not steel radials. If he was getting more use out of it, and was going to use this trailer weekly, he wouldn't be using it. Probably would have me build him a new one with all the works; 3 ton axles under it with closed section frame work and pullout ramps.

I don't know what you guys are saying about the speed rating of the tires. If they aren't rated for freeway speed, how come I see all these mobile homes rolling down the freeway here in Idaho at speeds of 65mph plus.? Oregon highways as well, and I'll bet that anybody who drives a Tractor Trailer out there and has driven through Oregon, know how strict they are. You guys back east, holy smokes, Oregon is terrible!! Oregon is so bad that when you are so far over weight with your trailer, there comes a point that they start charging you per pound!! I'm constantly seeing the drivers with there "pilot" cars just rolling down the freeway at the same speed or even sometimes faster than other cars on the road. Maybe they need to be told otherwise about their tire ratings, but then again, I seem them pulling in and then right out from the weigh stations with no problems at all!!

After using my dad's trailer however, I know that I don't want one so equiped, for myself.

Branden

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right said fred

12-19-2001 10:45:16




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 Re: Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Branden, 12-17-2001 21:26:55  
I was wondering if it is actually safer on the highways in gestapo states like Oregon and Maryland as compared to places like Montana that are a little more lax (remember our no speed limit regime a few years ago?) Human nature being what it is, carelessness seems to be pretty constant, and I suspect the statistics would bear this out.



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Branden

12-19-2001 22:40:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to right said fred, 12-19-2001 10:45:16  
I know what you are saying. I was up in Montana this summer. Missoula up to the Kalispell, White Fish area. They now have Day and Night speeds..... I'm not sure how fast I would want to hit a deer up there though. With all the hunters up there, I'm surprised there are any deer left. ((No, I'm not an anti-hunter!))

Branden



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right said fred

12-20-2001 13:04:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Branden, 12-19-2001 22:40:29  
I'm here in the eastern part of the state--a more rural attitude than Missoula et al. We tried the no speed limit for two years. Not much difference in everyday driving except an occasional out of stater would pass you on the freeway doing 100 mph. Arguments were made on both sides, but there just wasn't much correlation between the law and fatalities on the highway. Here in the sparse pop areas, we see some trucks and trailers making short hauls that wouldn't pass a DOT inspection in Africa, but I bet the safety record here (fatalities per mile driven) is similiar to Oregon. All the regs in the world don't matter if the driver falls asleep, is drunk/drugged, distracted, etc.

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Branden

12-20-2001 16:06:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to right said fred, 12-20-2001 13:04:06  
They actually raised the speed limit here in Idaho a few years ago to 75 on the interstates, and raised the state highway speeds to 65 in some areas. All you heard from the cops were that there was going to be an increase in the death rate because of it. I haven't heard or read anything since then that would support their claim. That's a typical thing you would expect someone of that profession to say. Their second favorite saying is when they get on the ten o'clock news at an accident scene and say, "I've been a cop for 23 years, and I've never seen anything like it." Every cop just waits to say that sooner or later. I'm not making fun of them it's just another one of those doughnut jokes for me.

I know what you mean about the DOT inspection. I live in an area that is mostly agriculture. It scares me how some of the local farmers take a careless attitude toward themselves and the public when it comes to securing loads and equipment maintenance. Bales of hay laying in the middle of the freeway, bent axles on discs and other implements being pulled at a high rate of speed down the road, so much so that the bent axle is causing the trailer or implement to bounce and occasionaly become air born. It's scarry. What's worse, what really sets me off, is when they take their farm dog and put him on their truck bed, flat bed, with no sides, go down the highway and turn on the side roads at speed and the dog about slides off. I hate that.

Branden

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right said fred

12-21-2001 10:27:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Branden, 12-20-2001 16:06:40  
Once a guy in front of me had to do a quick correction with his flatbed, and one of his ten or so dogs on back fell off. The dog didn't get hit, but it didn't do it any good. I personally am pretty paranoid about chaining my loads down on a truck, but the worst seem to be the implement guys who haul alot--they seem to drift down to the fewest and lightest chains possible.



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Mike

12-17-2001 17:20:36




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 Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Nick, 12-17-2001 17:14:37  
If you come into maryland and have mobile home tires and axles under your trailer, figure on leaving it at the first scale you come to. Our Gestapo sorry,(Police) say they are unsafe for trailer use and will red tag it.



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Jeremy

12-22-2001 15:45:08




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 Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Mike, 12-17-2001 17:20:36  
Besides, who'd want to pay those high prices for those oddball sized tires. What are they... 14.5" or something like that?



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Russ

12-17-2001 18:20:42




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 Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Mike, 12-17-2001 17:20:36  
I know that mobile home axles are not supposed to be used for any other purpose per Fed DOT regs, circa 1976 I believe, but in most cases you can buy real lowboy tires and use them on mobile home axles and no one is the wiser. You have to check the quality of your axles before investing in the tires. From what I understand, the older mobile home axles were just like any others of a given capacity but now they are alledgedly more visibly inferior. I haven`t seen this but have been told this by a Dexter dealer. Russ

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T_Bone

12-17-2001 20:22:32




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 Re: Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to Russ, 12-17-2001 18:20:42  
Hi Nick,

everyone's correct in saying MH tires are not rated for the road in fact it states on the tire for MH use only.

That being said, I've been on the way to pick-up my MH for the past 25yrs and never made it there yet:)

Mines a 28ft with tandum axles and it's done everything I've ever asked from it. I bought a MH in Colorado and got 8 extra wheel and tires and just now having to look for new ones. The only time I poped off a tire was I ran off the pavement while pulling in Colorado and even with 4 axles you could feel the 3rd axle tire flat. So no they don't just pop off the rim as thats the only one in 25yrs.

For $1400 you can buy new 10,000lb electric brake axles, springs, tire & wheels included, from southwestwheel.com
If I was building a new one and didn't have MH axles and had to buy them, I would probally go with the new Dexter axles with 16" so I could run 235R85/16E for more load 3450lbs. 8:00x 14.5 MH tires are good for 2550lbs or there abouts.

Also some of the new MH axles are made as a throw away axle. You can't change bearings.

I personally would make it a 24ft or longer tho.

T_Bone

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Johnny

12-21-2001 10:33:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: mobile home axels and tires, will they hold? in reply to T_Bone, 12-17-2001 20:22:32  
Ask a truck driver that hauls Trailer Houses for a living, every Mobile Home Toter that I see has about 8 or 10 spare tires on the back of his truck. You can buy a decent trailer around here to haul 5-6,ooo lbs for under a $1000.



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