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W.W.

12-06-2001 07:08:17




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I buy my fire wood in ten full cord loads delivered and stacked by my wood shed I saw it into 24 inch lingthes I see that STIHL makes a heavy duty elc, model e220q 2.3 hp. would it work well for me?




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EddieV

12-09-2001 12:11:10




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
I've always been partial to gas - up until a couple weeks ago when my dad recomended me take along an electric saw to trim some limbs for some elderly people. I laughed but the laugh was on me. The saw worked extremely well. Even one-handed reaching out to some limbs- I know very unsafe..... ... The people I did the work for greatly appreciated me bringing the saw because they didn't want me to "disturb thiere neighbors with lots of noise". That was something I didn't even think about. Get gas if you can afford it - buy electric if you only use it once or twice a year. If you don't regularly use a gas saw, watch how long gas sits around in the tank and carb.

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W.W.

12-08-2001 02:41:35




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  

thanks to everyone. I have a 14 inch McCollic or however it is spelled,but it is very slow. I'd like to know if te newer ones would be as fast as a gas job.



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Canadian Cowboy

12-06-2001 20:21:36




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
what do you saw up your delivered logs with now??? if your already using electric why is evry one trying to sell you on it???? maybe they should reread your question.

CAn't realy comment on that model of saw "stihl e220Q" Don't use electric, we Run all Husky logging saw's. Id suggets looking into the husky electric, comparing price.



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Gene Davis

12-06-2001 19:55:57




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
The nicest thing about my electric saw is that my wife will use it rather than wait on me to bring the gas one, and she can crank it! LGD



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Nathan(GA)

12-06-2001 19:49:46




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
I used to haul logs. One day while waiting for the loader, I got out and inquired about the electric saw the old man was using on the yard. It was a big industrial model with a bow. I picked it up and it must have weighed 30-40 lbs. The only noise it made was the sound of the chain going through the logs. I guess it was 220 or 440 volts. The cord was about 1 - 1 1/2" diameter. The guy said the only work was picking it up. The weight of it did the work once on the log. I'd hate to have to buy one like that. I don't remember the name brand.

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Mark Hendershot

12-06-2001 19:26:13




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
Reading this made me remember about a Electric Chain Saw story! My Brother in Law who is a CPA & Pres. of a large Company got together with some of his College Buddies very high up the ladder in Exective posisions. They wanted to get some exersize and do the mocho thing. They went out and bought a Electric Chain Saw and proceeded to cut a tree down, they even got a maul to split with!! WELL the tree they wanted to cut down was next to their house and they were carful not to fall it on the house! They didn't they fell it on the incomeing power lines and tore the Electric Service off the house! I was a Electrical Contractor at that time and they called me over to fix it. You should have seen them all standing there looking stupid and I was laughting so hard! You see I am the one who droped out of high school but I was there to bale them out! This was my day!!! Oh yes they said the Electric Chain Saw cut real nice I have never used one befor and you will haft to take their word for it! Their pile of wood cost them $1,200.00 and I said it would have been cheaper to have gone to the gym! Mark H.

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PJW

12-06-2001 18:02:04




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
Don't bother with an electric chain saw unless you want a toy or something your grandmother can use. Buy a good gas and you will own it for life. Rule #1 however DON'T let ANYONE borrow it. Buy the electric and you won�t care who uses it because you won�t want to.



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bbott

12-06-2001 17:41:59




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
IMHO stuff here.

How big (diameter) and how tough are the logs ?

If they average anything over 12" or so I'd go gas.

If you go gas, get a decent saw. A Husky 350 with 20" bar is a nice firewood saw. Should be less than $300. Stihl makes comparable models at about the same price. I'd stick to those two brands.

With care, it's virtually a lifetime purchase.

If the logs are small and don't have knots or wild grain to go through, heck, why not go electric.

Either way you go, remember that a nice sharp chain is your best friend. A dull chain will make even the best saw look bad.

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F14

12-06-2001 16:21:04




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
A year ago, I would have laughed at that question. But this summer, I drove 30 miles to put up a railroad tie retaining wall for a feller, and forgot the raggedy old Poulan gas saw I use for cutting ties.

Not wanting to drive all the way back for my saw, I asked if the feller had a bow saw (only cutting a few ties) and he said "Yeah, but wouldn't my electric chainsaw work better?" It was a really sad, beat up old wreck of a saw, chain all rusty, looked like h*ll warmed over.

Giggling quietly to my self the whole time, I squirted some bar lube on the chain, pulled it through by hand a few times to see if it was kinked much, and hit the button.

I was shocked (you should pardon the pun) at how well it worked. Even running on a 25' #14 extension cord, it had plenty of power, and gnawed right through those RR ties every bit as well as my old Poulan.

As they said below, much quieter, and I might add, a heck of a lot easier to start than that dang old Poulan!

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PCC-AL

12-06-2001 16:10:32




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
Hi W.W.
Mark and Tyler both made some good points. The different type saws are usually designed for a particular purpose and each have advantages and disadvantages. Mark rather throughly discussed these. Tyler made a heck of a good point about the bar length and not having to bend over. I believe these guys know their saws.
Up until about 1990 the only heat we had in our house was open fireplaces. Since I was a small boy I helped, then solely provided the wood we burned. I started with a hand cross-cut and moved up to chain saws when we got our first big, heavy McCullogh with a bow. Bows are great for standing up and cutting without bending. Heavy Homelites next and finally a new Sithl that a baby can pick up. Still cutting, but enough about me. I have an electric also. It's good for what it was intended.
O.K., you are cutting 24" lengths from trees already harvested and delivered. What you are doing is cut-off work. If this is correct and you live in a populated area where noise is a problem, by all means go with electric. Whether bow or bar depends on how young you are & how much you like bending. If you are out in the country with nobody complaining (wife???) you can choose gas if you may need to take the saw to the woods on occassion.
Size of saw depends on your needs, probably mid-weight by your post. If I could get my wood cut with a fingernail file, I would cause they don"t weigh much.
I've talked too long and the other guys already gave lots of good advice. Good luck.

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Mark Kw

12-06-2001 09:14:34




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
I have used many different chain saws air, hydraulic, gas and electric. Air and electric ones have only one hose/cord to drag with you, hydraulic have a twin lead like a torch hose and are difficult at times to work around. While these are somewhat of a pain to deal with, the real difference comes in what the saw is being used for.

Gas and air powered saws are loud saws while electric is more tolerable the hydraulic is still the quietest and most powerful for size/weight factor. Second on the size weight factor is electric as companies are building higher powered electric motors in a smaller unit. Of course the smaller and more powerful the motor, the higher the cost.

From your post, I gather you are having a load delivered to your property which means you won't be dragging the saw all over the creation. For this use, I suggest seriously considering the electric powered one. Some reasons: Safety- the saw blade stops completely when the switch is released, noise- they are much quieter than gas, economy- they only use fuel (in this case electric) when they are actully doing work, annoyance factor- there is no ambient noise when the saw is stopped unlik a gas saw where you don't want to shut down the engine everytime you put the saw down (also part of the safety factor.

I have a 16" Remmington, relatively cheap model designed more so for the part time DIY'er trimming duty. I picked this one up used at a yard sale for about 15 bucks several years ago. Since then, I have used it rather heavily for cutting up rail road ties, 6" x 6" and 4" x 4" crib blocks, pallets, thick walled carboard tubes and so forth. The only real maintenance I had on it was sharpening the chain. While I have destroyed a few chains hitting nails and staples, they actually last as long as you keep them oiled and don't try to saw metal or rocks. The operational costs are very low too. Pound for pound of cutting time, electric costs about 1/10 or less what it would to operate a gas saw. No mixing fuel, no gasoline laying around, ect. With a sharp chain, this saw will cut very well even in hard dry ash and oak. Weighing in at about 6 pounds, it sure is easier on the body than my gas saw that weighs in around 24 pounds. Working where you have electric power readily available, this is definitely the way to go. I would strongly suggest using power supplied by a GFCI breaker and a heavy duty extention cord, preferably a three wire grounding cord with an abrasion resistant covering and keep it out of wet locations.

Not putting down my Stihl 044 because it's darn good saw for out in the field but for around the shop, the electric one is much more tolerable and safe to use.

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Kevin

12-06-2001 16:01:02




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 Re: Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to Mark Kw, 12-06-2001 09:14:34  
My Father-in-law bought his first cheap Remington a couple years back. He does the same thing you do,gets it delivered and whacks it into 24" lengths. He says that to cut wood that will not need splitting, (8-10" diameter), the Remington is a champ. Best thing is, they are so cheap, you can basically toss it over your shoulder if it breaks and not lose any sleep over it. I personally would get a refurb from Harbor Freight, they are $10-20 cheaper and usually are just returns from idiots that bought them for one minor project and returned them when they were done!

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Tyler(WA)

12-06-2001 08:34:14




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 Re: elc.vs gas chain saw in reply to W.W., 12-06-2001 07:08:17  
Never have seen an electric chainsaw that could hold up to half the workload that a gas saw could.

That Farm Boss is about the best deal on wheels for today. It comes with an 18" bar but I went for a 20" bar. Wish I'd gotten the 30" bar now.

It isnt' that I want to cut larger logs but with the longer bar I don't have to bend over to cut and the chain stays sharp longer.



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