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Pete in Ks

12-05-2001 08:47:51

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I was reading my Farmers Hot Line mag today and saw an ad for a tool that cuts vertually any material including concrete or stone and is faster and cheaper than a plasma cutter. Just wondered if anyone here has used one and what they thought of it. Here is their web site.
http://www.magnumusa.com/

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Steve U.S. Alloys

12-06-2001 04:59:43

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Re: magma fusion in reply to Pete in Ks, 12-05-2001 08:47:51

I just e-mailed Jim L. about similar equipment the other day. We carry three different manufacturers in our Indiana warehouse. The Magma is the biggest torch and is used extensively in foundries and by demolition crews. It is also the most expensive one we sell. The smaller ones will produce a good volume of sparks and molten material but not to the same extent as the big torch. We sell this type of equipment for underwater welding and demolition as well.

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John ('48 Cub), Ohio

12-06-2001 06:05:43

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Re: Re: magma fusion in reply to Steve U.S. Alloys, 12-06-2001 04:59:43

Oh yeah, I also talked to one of our shop guys this morning. He said that it sounded a lot like an Oxygen Lance (which we also have). He thought that the biggest problems with the Oxygen lance were that 1) They made a TON of smoke, 2) They were more expensive to operate, and 3) They used a lot of Oxygen.

How similar is this Magma torch to an Oxygen Lance? Does it Smoke much? What kind of control do you get for removing welds? Does it leave a lot of slag?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'm really curious to see if we can use this tool here.

Thanks, JohnP

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Steve U.S. Alloys

12-07-2001 05:45:23

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Re: Re: Re: magma fusion in reply to John ('48 Cub), Ohio, 12-06-2001 06:05:43

Hi John,
It is similar to an O2 lance. The consumable is of a different design. These types of thermal cutting devices are really smaller, more precise versions of the O2 lance. The electrodes can be extended for instance, and the equipment is less cumbersome and more easily transported for portability.

I know what the manufacturer says about performance, but....since I depend on repeat business, I'm not going to stretch that far. I wouldn't compare either process to a plasma torch. It would be more comparable to a high powered gouging electrode or carbon arc. (The advantage of carbon arc is the absence of carbon residue.) More precisely....I would compare it to a tamer, more controlled version of the O2 lance if the person I was describing it to had seen one.....as you have.

For cutting stone or reinforced concrete, the smaller torches are slower than an O2 lance but do operate considerably cheaper and with less smoke and blow back. All will require the same operating technique and you will get a molten metal bath of some sort when piercing. Some are just a bit more intense than others. In the right place, this is very useful and profitable equipment. I always like to ask more questions before recommending any specific equipment or alloy.

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Bgame

02-11-2002 08:40:09

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Re: Re: Re: Re: magma fusion in reply to Steve U.S. Alloys, 12-07-2001 05:45:23

I order a Magnumfusion system from Magnum Manufacturing in Phelan CA. I fell like their product is not what they advertise. Lots of smoke and does not make a very fine cut. Uses a lot of oxygen and the rods do not last long. You do have to grind to clean up the cuts. We were very dispointed with the product. We called and tried to returned it and they did not want to take it back. I would recomemend that you stay away from this product unless you are doing salvage work and then I have my doubts. It does crude cuts and is nothing like a plasma cutter. I can not stress enough that these people, Magnum Manufacturing are not nice people to do business with. This unit cost 675.00 and it is my opinion it is not worth 200.00. When we wanted to return the product they threatend us with their lawyer. Hey we only wanted to return and get our money back.

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John ('48 Cub), Ohio

12-06-2001 05:13:28

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Re: Re: magma fusion in reply to Steve U.S. Alloys, 12-06-2001 04:59:43

Steve, how well do they really work as compared to Carbon air arc or to Plasma cutters? We use both around here a lot (at work) as we do heavy construction/reconstruction of Mill and Foundry equipment. I showed the Magma fusion site reference to several folks in our shop, but I am curious to see how it actually works.

JohnP

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rhudson

12-05-2001 19:54:58

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Re: magma fusion in reply to Pete in Ks, 12-05-2001 08:47:51

you gotta love to eat fire to run one. i've used the ones that use air. its great to take out pivot pins on earthmoving equipment. the rod will burn/blow a hole through the center of the length of a pin. let the pins heat soak into the female bushing for a few minutes, then cool the pin. most of the time the pin will drive out with a big punch and 4lb. hammer. but the sparks..man you need a full foundry suit to be around one. the rod has a groove with solid fuel in it. air or pure oxygen blows down the id of the tube. if you watch many high tech bank vault cracking movies, this equipment will show up in a couple. i would rather use a regular ox/acc tourch for everyday stuff. maybe Steve or someone who has more experience with the newer eq. will post.

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