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digger

12-03-2001 07:38:56




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ok i am going to rebuild it save a heck of a lot of $$$$, $160 to be exact, my question is, has anyone done this and if so what kind of results have they had is all i need is like 6 mos out of it for reference it is a girling #7 master cylinder out of a 1985 jeep cherokee with a 2.8 liter engine and a 5 speed tranny




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Plmoss

10-08-2005 21:50:32




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 Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to digger, 12-03-2001 07:38:56  
I am trying to rebuild the master cylinder in my jeep and I cant seem to get the cylinder out of the bore. The guy at the auto parts store said that I would have to beat it out with a rubber mallet but I dont see what he means how can you beat it out any help would be appreciated.



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Jon Hagen

12-04-2001 11:34:31




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 Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to digger, 12-03-2001 07:38:56  
The $160 price is for a new genuine Jeep cylinder??
I would check an auto parts store for the price on their rebuilt or new cylinder. If your old cylinder bore is rusted or scored you may not have much luck at rebuilding. I have found a few cases where a new jobber cylinder was the same price as a rebuild kit,sometimes cheaper.
I rebuilt the brake calipers on a 79 Dodge twice with $12 kits. The castings were developing some warpage which caused the pistons to stick.After two unsucessful rebuilds and $24 invested I discovered complete rebuilt calipers at napa for $15,which have been trouble free for several years. Check to price to replace with jobber parts before you rebuild a less than perfect casting. Been there,done that. :)

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digger

12-05-2001 07:37:50




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 Re: Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to Jon Hagen, 12-04-2001 11:34:31  
that is the price from napa as well as others the cylinder is a girling #7 which is from puegot as the vehicle has a puegot tranny and therefore costs big bucks so i went with the rebuild i threw it in yesterday and ill hav4e to see where it does from here.



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Nolan

12-04-2001 04:59:43




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 Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to digger, 12-03-2001 07:38:56  
I've had mixed results with rebuilding these type cylinders. It would depend on the quality of the rebuild kit, and the condition of the bore.

If the bore itself is shot, then no rebuild kit is going to make it work right. It's just like doing an engine, new rings won't fix deep cylinder wall gouges or rust pits. Honing is a "good thing", but it's real easy to go too far and get the bore so large the rubber seals won't make good contact any more (been there, done that).

The condition of the rubber in the rebuild kit is pretty critical, and I've had it vary widely. I've had kits where the seals were deformed right out of the box (NAPA, frustratingly enough was the worse at this). Others where the seals where of good form, but of extremely poor quality rubber that disolved itself in a few months. Interestingly, it was the master cylinder rebuild kits that were the worse. Wheel cylinder kits usually didn't have this problem. Go figure.

Remember, the air rises in brake fluid, so before you go killing yourself attempting to bleed down low at the slave cylinder, do so where the line attaches to the master cylinder first.

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buck

12-03-2001 18:36:43




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 Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to digger, 12-03-2001 07:38:56  

most likely all you will need is the rubber cups. Auto parts stores carry these in many different sizes. Instead of trying to find an exact kit I usually just get the needed cups.



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T_Bone

12-03-2001 18:00:39




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 Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to digger, 12-03-2001 07:38:56  
Hi Digger,

As the others stated, easy to rebuild. I do hone all my cylinders as they las longer and seal best that way. Napa kits are great and they carry the cylinder hone.

Keep very clean and bench bleed before installing:)

T_Bone



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Johnny in E.Tx

12-03-2001 17:31:49




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 Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to digger, 12-03-2001 07:38:56  
They are easy to rebuild and HECK to bleed, at least on my 1989 Chevy. If you have any rubber line on the hose you might consider replacing that too. Sho feels weird pushing in the clutch and it ain't there pulling a 8000 lb. trailer through town!



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bcPA

12-03-2001 10:54:11




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 Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to digger, 12-03-2001 07:38:56  
It should not be a big deal as long as the parts are readily avaiable. I did the matercyl on a int loadstar and it was unbeliveably uncomplicated. Keep everything clean! disasemble, clean the bore with a cylinder hone if needed and reassemble acording to instructions that come with the kit. As long as jeep didnt go crazy with inovations it should be a snap, almost. Pay attention to details and dont be in a hurry. wipe up any spilled brake fluid right away and rinse with plenty of water, or goodby to the paint it touches. GOOD LUCK.

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digger

12-03-2001 17:58:56




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 Re: Re: clutch master cylinder in reply to bcPA, 12-03-2001 10:54:11  
thanks guys it looks pretty good in there and just a pair of rubbers and a spring in there i appreciate the help



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