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Oxygen/Acetylene bottle transport

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Johnny in E.Tx

11-17-2001 18:01:27




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I see a lot of welders, farmers, etc. hauling these rigs down the highway at 70 plus miles per hour with the regulators and hoses still attached. Is this legal? It would seem to be much safer with the caps on the bottles. I cap mine when hauling, Life is short ehough as it is.




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Mark Kw

11-18-2001 07:39:16




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 Re: Oxygen/Acetylene bottle transport in reply to Johnny in E.Tx, 11-17-2001 18:01:27  
It is illegal in all states to transport compressed gas cylinders with regulators, hoses, ect. attached to the tank valve. D.O.T. approved transport caps must also be installed completely.

Caps may not completely prevent a fire or explosion from happening because the valve got damaged but they will help for the most part. Another function of the cap is allow a controlled release of over pressure within the tank without causing the tank to become a projectile. There is a reason for the two slots or multiple holes in the cap, these allow the gas to be vented in opposing directions creating an equal force holding the tank in place.

Acet tanks and others with liquids in them such as liquid O2 and LPG, must be transported in the vertical position with the caps installed and facing up. Tanks must also be secured with D.O.T. approved nylon transport straps or transport chain and binders to prevent any movement.

MSHA, DEP and EPA regulated sites also require all tanks be disconnected and capped before being moved even if off road or inside a structure. This applies even if the tanks are not mounted on a vehicle, torch carts are considered "transportation devices" in the eyes of most agencies such as those listed above.

Those caps that allow for installation of the regulator are only designed to prevent theft and or tampering with the tank valve, not for tansportation.

Outside storage cages/racks must also meet many conditions set forth by government agencies. In most cases, complying with the NFPA regulations will suffice to satisfy other agencies and insurance companies. Certain locations and conditions constitute the need for specific application regulations and if in doubt, safest bet is to contact the appropriate agency before getting your butt in the ringer. Water going vessels fall under the control of the US Coast Guard and their regulations apply for all marine uses, on inland waterways and at sea.

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Sven

11-19-2001 10:45:57




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 Re: Re: Oxygen/Acetylene bottle transport in reply to Mark Kw, 11-18-2001 07:39:16  
What about the bottles that don't have caps? I have oxy and acet bottles that have this hand grip that is taller than the valve so if the bottle fell the valve won't get damaged or broken.These seam to be some kind of new style. Would these have to be capped as well for transport?



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Mark Kw

11-20-2001 09:05:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Oxygen/Acetylene bottle transport in reply to Sven, 11-19-2001 10:45:57  
These are not new, it is an old design that has been phased out over time. There may be some newer tanks still around like this. I don't know the whole spectrum concerning existing tanks or if they are grandfathered or not. I know they still sell these rings for use to protect the regulators when installed but don't know of anything that says they can be used for transport. As far as I can tell you is they should be removed and the cylinder capped with a standard style cap during transport. The size of the tank may also play a role in caps or other devices can be used. I will question my supplier to see what if anything I can find out about this.

I normally only deal with LP and the large tanks of O2 and sheilding gases, 292 and 390 sizes. These I know have to be capped during transport.

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fordson29

11-17-2001 18:16:39




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 Re: Oxygen/Acetylene bottle transport in reply to Johnny in E.Tx, 11-17-2001 18:01:27  
It's illegal in N.C. They make a cap that is slotted that you can leave the reg. on but killing yourself is one thing but killing someone else I do not want to live with. I don't think it is any different then hauling a missle down the road. I always take the reg. off and cap mine. I would trade a few minutes for a few years anytime. Jonathan (JJK Tractor Salvage)



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