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cmb

11-04-2001 17:40:40




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any experience with them good or bad? I am talking about the type that has a water jacket with piping to your house




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Nolan

11-13-2001 12:10:32




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 Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to cmb, 11-04-2001 17:40:40  
Neighbor of mine has one. What a god awful filthy pig it is! He can fumigate the valley in nothing flat. Luckily, I'm over the ridge from him, so while I regularly can smell it (smoldering stumps and green wood stink), it isn't too bad.

If you get one, and you've got neighbors anywhere, you can probably expect legal action against you.



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dave#1

11-16-2001 17:28:32




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 Re: Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to Nolan, 11-13-2001 12:10:32  
It would be a blessing to have you as a neighbor..... ..... ....NOT!

ROFL

later"Remember me?Belch"dave



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Bob Kirk

11-05-2001 16:36:49




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 Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to cmb, 11-04-2001 17:40:40  
I installed a HeatSource 1 unit (built in Nebraska) for radiant floor heat and domestic hot water in a new 6000 sq ft building. Began operating it last summer for hot water. During the summer, loaded it only every other day. Now with nights down in the 30s, its once a day. Since I'm surrounded by woods with dead fall, its a low cost way to go.

I picked the HeatSource 1 mainly because it has a stainless steel water jacket. Several people here in West Virginia have told me they have had corrosion problems with mild steel units.

From what I see, I would strongly suggest the following:

1. Insulate the underground pipe from the furnace to the house. A company called Insulseal (Minnesota I think) makes R20 insulated 4" PVC that will hold 2 one-inch pipes. This stuff is expensive (I paid about $5.50/ft) but it will save lots of wood and labor.

2. Get a unit with a big blower to control the burn and insure quick, complete combustion of any kind of wood. Now that I've run one, I don't think a "natural draft" unit would handle the variety of stuff I burn.

3. A unit with a way to take ashes out the bottom is very handy so you can maintain a good bed of coals even when you're cleaning out the ashes.

In short, I'm very happy I went with this setup.

Bob

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Jim Ct

11-05-2001 14:29:18




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 Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to cmb, 11-04-2001 17:40:40  
I don't but a nieghbor does.She uses it to heat her indoor riding ring!!! Horse people.She got itthe same time she was divorcing her husband and thought she was so smart in saving $$ by not having anti freeze added to the system.Anyway she was out of town and the barn help let the fire go out during a deep freeze of course and when she came home afew days later she had a indoor shower.This is that your heat9ng the whole state of Ct vs a house which would retain a certain amount of heat.These stoves just smolder really so don't do like her help and throw gas -really -on the fire.Since she has gotten more intelligant help and all has been well though I thbhink she should've stayed married

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ed

11-05-2001 15:19:56




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 Re: Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to Jim Ct, 11-05-2001 14:29:18  
I have a taylor brand outdoor wood stove it is junk It can hardly keep itself warm when its 30 below zero I live in duluth minn and my house is 1800 square feet I have slab heat in the basement and forced air up stairs thats it and with burning seasoned birch and ash we are out there about every 3.5 to four hours We are totally dissatisfied with it Our next stove will be a Aquatherm or the canadian cold killer the tailor is only a good garbage burner

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Mike

11-08-2001 07:49:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to ed, 11-05-2001 15:19:56  
I have an 1600 sq ft house and heat w/ a taylor 450 and am very happy w/ it. When it's cold (0) I fill it twice a day. When it is wickedly cold (subzero w/ wind) I go out before bed and out and add extra block or two in it for a 3rd fill. My stove is 13 years old and in the next year or two I'd like to replace w/ a newer taylor. works for me



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Ed

11-05-2001 17:57:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to ed, 11-05-2001 15:19:56  
We have a Classic CL-40 from Central Boiler.We have used it for 5 years and this last year added a 7 x 15 greenhouse to the system. Our house is
1800 ft/2 and we heat a 24x32 barn with 400 feet of half inch poly in the slab. Central doesn't use stainless because it is subject to cracking.
We put in a half gallon of boiler conditioner every year and have no problem with corosion. We burn about a thousand pallets or equivalent per year. The neighbors are learning that they can bring their old boards and tree limbs so we have cleaned up the neighborhood. My only wish is that it had grates and an ash pit.I saved on insulation by buying 2 inch blue board and slicing it into 2 inch and 8 inch strips. These I put together with builders adhesive to make a nice 2 x 4 inch channel for the pipes. Works great! Ed

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Bob Kirk

11-09-2001 15:02:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to Ed, 11-05-2001 17:57:45  
When I talked to Central Boiler they offered a stainless unit, but downplayed the importance of stainless -- I think because they charge a lot more money for stainless and they want to make the sale. My reading indicated that 409 type stainless does not become brittle when repeatedly heated, but other types of stainless (304?) will. So it is important to get the right type of stainless.

Central Boiler came in "2nd" in my shopping because the HeatSource 1 had the 409 stainless tank + electronic controlled blower + huge fire box + easy ash removal -- all for the same price as similar sized Central Boiler in mild steel.

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al

11-05-2001 14:23:08




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 Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to cmb, 11-04-2001 17:40:40  
These units are atmospheric (non-pressurized) and the installation location is very important. Also an anti freeze solution is recommended in case of a failure. I have been installing these and other boiler for 43 years and they are very hard to beat, when installed with a few extras. E-mail if you have any questions.



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al

11-05-2001 14:22:12




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 Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to cmb, 11-04-2001 17:40:40  
These units are atmospheric (non-pressurized) and the installation location is very important. Also an anti freeze solution is recommended in case of a failure. I have been installing these and other boiler for 43 years and they are very hard to beat, when installed with a few extras. E-mail if you have any questions.



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Norris White

11-05-2001 09:33:52




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 Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to cmb, 11-04-2001 17:40:40  
I have a Hardy brand. It has 100 gal. capacity,with 2 heat exchangers in the air handleing equip. and also preheats my domestic water heaters. I start it up around Thanksgiving and it keep it fired up through February. I use it exclusively to heat a rather large home (3,000sf). All controls are automated - except feeding firebox. For more info feel free to contact me.
nwhite



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Alvin NE WI

11-05-2001 04:36:50




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 Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to cmb, 11-04-2001 17:40:40  
Got on for about 7 years, heat 2 homes and 40 X 60 work shop. Happy with it, got the mess out of house and don,t have to worry about chimmey fire and repairs. I have the brand name of taylor..



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ShepFL

11-05-2001 08:23:00




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 Re: Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to Alvin NE WI, 11-05-2001 04:36:50  
Alvin -
Would like some details on pros and cons of these stoves.

Planning on building new home this winter and been trying to push Mrs. ShepFL into this. I was planning on heating my 30x60 shop and modest house.
Thanks



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Alvin NE WI

11-05-2001 17:22:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Outdoor wood stove? Does anybody have..... in reply to ShepFL, 11-05-2001 08:23:00  
If I was doing my shop over, I would put the hot water tubing in the floor right in the cement. When I built my shop, duh , didn't think far enough ahead. sort of hard to do it after the cement is in. I got my own source of wood, don't know what you have. If I read right, you live in Florida, a furnace like this may be more than you might need. It sure is nice up here, fire up twice a day, no smoke in house, no bugs come alive from the warm air in house and the big one, no fire IN the house. Insurance man like'em also.

How is it down there, plan on being down there next week for a several days, just snoop around a bit, see how other people behave,etc..

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