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Chopper

10-01-2001 08:32:25




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I have a NEW Porter Cable Compressor (CPLC7060V) Single stage, Oil, 60gal tank (made by De Vilbiss).

It is rated @ 135psi and does cut off @ 135psi, however, within 10 minutes of shut off it looses 5-7psi, and by the next morning it is down to 110psi, where it seems to stabelize. It does not loose any further pressure after this.

I replaced the CHECK VALVE and run it through a 30 minute break in period, but NO help.

Also, I have the shut off valve @ the compressor (OFF),thus eliminating the distribution system.

I have checked the tank and all fittings for leaks, but can't find any.

Any suggestions?
Thanx
Chopper

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Neil

10-02-2001 06:20:31




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 Re: Compressor Question in reply to Chopper, 10-01-2001 08:32:25  
I hope the shut off valve is after the tank, and not after the pump, as this is extremely dangerous!
A pump running into a closed line is a bomb waiting to go off.
Yes, I know, you NEVER forget to open the valve. Well that is what they can put on your headstone.
Have a good day, and play safe.



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Chopper

10-02-2001 09:34:23




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 Re: Re: Compressor Question in reply to Neil, 10-02-2001 06:20:31  
Neil,
Thanks for your concern.

Yes, my shut off is AFTER the tank, NOT the PUMP.
I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I cut pretty cleanly.

FYI
Since you didn't address my question I assume you don't know the answer either. It may be of interest to you to read the reply from THE PHYSICIST.

Thanks Again for you concern.
Chopper



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The Physicist

10-01-2001 21:23:55




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 Re: Compressor Question in reply to Chopper, 10-01-2001 08:32:25  
What you are observing is normal even if you have NO LEAKS.

After your compressor runs you have a 60 gallon tank full of HOT air. AS it cools down the pressure will drop. Your 5-7 PSI drop after 10 minutes is probably normal. I have observed this on a compressor with 80 gallon tank and 160 PSI cutout pressure.

The pressure is proportional to the temperature.

This is an example of Gay-Lussac's Law (See http://www.chem.csus.edu/gaslaws/gay-lus.html ).

Here are some other links to look at. . .

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Chopper

10-02-2001 09:28:10




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 Re: Re: Compressor Question in reply to The Physicist, 10-01-2001 21:23:55  
Physicist,

Thanks 1k x 1000 for you’re reply. It makes perfect sense and is so logical. I’m a pretty simple guy (Financial Planner RETIRED), however, I should have been able to deduce the answer for myself. Problem must have been all the brain farts I’ve been having lately.

Prior to my writing YTmag I had contacted De Vilbiss SEVERAL times with this problem, however, no one had a clue (SAD). The best they could do was to send me the new CHECK VALVE I alluded to in my message.

Its reassuring knowing great minds like yours are out there so we don’t have to depend on the corporately trained robots who we call on for answers to questions re: their area of expertise (LOL).

Again, Thanks for you’re greatly appreciated reply…
Chopper

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The Physicist

10-03-2001 20:48:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Compressor Question in reply to Chopper, 10-02-2001 09:28:10  
I'm no physicist. Must have been something I picked up back in high school physics class years ago. I had to search internet to find the proper name of what you were observing. Glad to be of help. I think this was the first time I looked at this Tool Talk forum.
Have you phoned De Vilbiss to educate them? Wonder if anyone else called them with the same "problem" ??



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Chopper

10-04-2001 05:00:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Compressor Question in reply to The Physicist, 10-03-2001 20:48:22  
Physicist,

Ironically, my first time in YTMag’s web-site, let alone TOOL TALK Forum.

Yes, I have phoned De Vilbiss and passed your information on to them.

I have no knowledge of any other calls re: the same problem, however, I find it hard to believe others haven’t observed this same condition and called.

I suppose its possible that corporate America has us so subconsciously programmed, that we just accept the fact that (nothing really does what it is advertised to do) and accept this as normal. Who knows?

I could tell you a number of instances that I have perused similar situations with a myriad of products, however, we won’t go there now.

If you would like to communicate from time to time (outside YTMag’s Forum) pass your e-mail address on to me. Mine is box273@hazleton.net

I’m sure we could have some very stimulating communications.

Incidentally;
Did you look at my question re: MAG Welders in the forum?
If so, any opinion on it?

Again, Thanx
Chopper

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John in MA

10-01-2001 16:53:43




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 Re: Compressor Question in reply to Chopper, 10-01-2001 08:32:25  
Bubble test all valves, threads, and fittings. Pay attention to the drain valve and unloader. Also, try using a different gauge. The one you have could be malfunctioning.



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Chopper

10-02-2001 09:38:10




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 Re: Re: Compressor Question in reply to John in MA, 10-01-2001 16:53:43  
John,
I did everything you suggested PRIOR to writing YTMag. Gague is fine. NO LEAKS as I mentioned in my question.

Read the reply from THE PHYSICIST for the correct answer.

Thans for your reply
Chopper



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