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Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades

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Mister Ike

05-21-2008 10:48:06




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Is there such a thing? If there is, and it works as good as carbide tipped circular saw blades, it might be worth it.




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oldhousehugger25

06-12-2008 15:11:10




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to Mister Ike, 05-21-2008 10:48:06  
Check baileysonline.com Their RC38OCF or RC404A3CH carbide chains have a real good explanation as to who uses them. They sell all sorts of stuff for the logging industry.



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ohfred

05-22-2008 11:01:05




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to Mister Ike, 05-21-2008 10:48:06  
Lets get serious about cutters...being a machinist, I know about all the different cutters we use. Back in the old days it was high carbon steel. Would cut cold rolled, hot rolled and cast iron okay but had to go slow or it would burn the tip off. Next was high speed steel which done the job a lot faster...but that wasn't fast enough even with a harder cutter called stellite. So tnen we went to tungsten carbide which is up there next to the diamond in hardness...and thats what it takes to sharpen it. We had gone from about 50 on the Rockwell "C" scale in hardness to around 93. My thoughts are...I wouldn't need carbide, my answer would be a high speed steel that was hard enough that it wouldn't chip but would require grinding instead of filing.You don't need to know about ceramic cutters. Just my opinion. ohfred

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Matt from CT

05-21-2008 20:15:14




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to Mister Ike, 05-21-2008 10:48:06  
To expand a bit on what others posted, there's a number of saws modified for the fire service. Carbide chains are standard with them, but go for around $200 a pop, and you can't sharpen them with a standard sharpener.

The carbide helps them to stand up better against asphalt shingles and the grit on them, as well as roofing nails and the nails hold sheathing to rafters. You still want to plunge the saw through as soon as you can so most of the cutting is from the bottom side up to minimize cutting directly against the grit.

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NE IA

05-21-2008 19:05:10




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to Mister Ike, 05-21-2008 10:48:06  
I'm a old guy at our fire department and probably fifteen years ago we got a special chain, carbide if I remember when I ordered it. I personaly think it is a waste, but that is a opinion only.



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RobMD

05-21-2008 12:00:14




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to Mister Ike, 05-21-2008 10:48:06  
If you're not really doing much wood cutting, forget getting one.



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JT

05-21-2008 11:36:36




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to Mister Ike, 05-21-2008 10:48:06  
Yes, you can buy it, BUT, it is vey expensive. Contact a company called RAPCO. an 18" chain could cost you a couple hundred bucks, and you will have to have a diamond wheel to sharpen it. Your best bet is a carbide sprayed chain, holds up about 3-4 times longer than standard chain between sharpenings and is about $80.00 for an 18" loop and it can be sharpened with a regular chian grinder. If you call them, get it on Carlton chain, much better chain. Phone number is 800-959-6130
www.rapcoindustries.com

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M Moline Fan

05-21-2008 11:05:57




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to Mister Ike, 05-21-2008 10:48:06  
On a tv program I saw there's special chainsaws made for firemen. They use them instead of axes. Saw through wood and metal. But I bet they cost a bundle.



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Sam from WA

05-21-2008 14:36:41




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 Re: Carbide Tipped Chain Saw Blades in reply to M Moline Fan, 05-21-2008 11:05:57  
Yes, there is a special chain saw that is built by Stihl for fire departments. It is the MS460R Rescue Saw. It uses a different starting handle, comes with depth gauge, special carbide chain designed for cutting rough stuff(shingles, wood, nails, etc), and several other special things specialized for fire service. Carbide chains are not worth the expense if you don"t use the saw almost every day. Carbide chains are VERY expensive and aren"t really available for the smaller size saws, not to mention a pain in the butt to sharpen, because you can"t use a file or regular chain grinder.
We do use carbide chains on the saws at work, but we also get our money"s worth out of every saw up there.

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