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Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer

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Glenn F.

05-07-2008 14:30:38

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I understand the load (tractor) on a flatbed trailer is to be bound with four chains (one to each corner of the tractor and trailer bed), each one having its own binder. Each chain (grade 70) and binder is to be capable of holding the entire weight of the tractor. Is this correct?

As I observe loads flying down the highway I rarely see them so bound.

I appreciate your responses.

Glenn F. (NE WI)

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ShepFL

05-11-2008 21:25:25

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Glenn F., 05-07-2008 14:30:38

Not knowing every state law for hauling personal rigs I invested in Grade 70 chain and ratchet binders. I still have my snap over binders but twice in the jaw in yr. was enough for this fella.

I tie off on 4 corners and yes it is overkill but it is CHEAP INSURANCE! Beyond that I don't scare half the folks on the road nor do I get the State Troopers pulling along side to take a peek.

I was once hauling a Farmall H from Atlanta and lost a rear tire on the truck. None the less losing that truck tire unexpectedly scared me and my passengers but the load never budged. Would hate to think of the mess I would be in if that H would have ended up in the middle of the highway.

When I see some stuff running down the road with poor tie downs or nothing at all I hurry to get around them. Would not want to be in the path of a loose tractor at 70 mph. Again, mine is overkill but it is CHEAP INSURANCE.

Need a giggle - read this about that H! :lol:
http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=ttalk&th=380210

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jpl

05-09-2008 13:37:50

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Glenn F., 05-07-2008 14:30:38

i think some of haulers are plain lazy, it doesnt take long to properly chain a tractor or any equipment the right way. after 37 years over road i;ve seen some stupid people out there hauling things, even not binding them down.

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maplehillfrm

05-09-2008 21:01:44

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to jpl, 05-09-2008 13:37:50

I hear ya thats where I got all my experience ,, hauling over the road, I can safely say never lost a load,, and have had some wild loads,,. I just cant understand how some peopel can risk, OTHER peoples lives by not taking the 5 minutes to properly secure the load,, ignorance is not an excuse,, if you dont know how to do it have someone do it that does,

keep it safe out there,

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Kentb of SWMO

05-08-2008 05:31:14

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Glenn F., 05-07-2008 14:30:38

Saw a skid-steer go by the house yesterday on a gooseneck trailer. NOT A SIGN OF A CHAIN!!!!!

Kent

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balatonm

05-09-2008 06:44:26

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Kentb of SWMO, 05-08-2008 05:31:14

We never use chains on the skid steer unless its going long distances.
For tractors, we only use 2 chains, 1 around the front axel, the other the other thru a clevis on the hitch.

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maplehillfrm

05-09-2008 10:50:07

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to balatonm, 05-09-2008 06:44:26

why would you use chains on a tractor and not chain down the skid steer??? what am I missing here??

they can both roll, they can both fall off, the can both bounce,,, so what makes the skid steer safe being unchained, but you feel you need to chain the tractor??

I agree you dont need 4 chains, I only use 1 in the front and 1 in the rear,, but anything that goes on my trailers is chained,, I just dont understand the logic..

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CNKS

05-08-2008 17:15:34

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Kentb of SWMO, 05-08-2008 05:31:14

I saw a small backhoe not chained down the other day. It was blocked on the trailer and the wheels were turned so that it couldn't move. I stayed away from it.

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Glenn F.

05-07-2008 18:42:21

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Glenn F., 05-07-2008 14:30:38

Advice well taken.

Thank you,
Glenn F.

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Bret4207

05-07-2008 16:24:38

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Glenn F., 05-07-2008 14:30:38

The short and sweet- an article of "Heavy Equipment on tracks or tires" weighing MORE THAN 10,000 lbs needs at least 4 separate tie downs. The tie downs must be adjustable- that doesn't mean you need 4 binders, just that you can adjust the tie down, like taking up a link in a chain. Chain doesn't have to be grade 70, just has to have a working load limit capable of holding the load. All this depned on you being "A commercial motor vehicle" in the first place, unless your State demands otherwise.

I hear this stuff all the time. I'm a DOT cop and the best thing you can do is get a copy of the tie down regs or lasso a local Dot officer to fill you in.

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Sam from WA

05-07-2008 16:03:32

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Glenn F., 05-07-2008 14:30:38

We seldom use more than 2 chains and binders on a tractor. One chain runs over the front, and one over the back of the machine. We will use more chains and binder on our dozers and excavators, mostly because they are so heavy. The only binders we will ever use at work are the over-center type, mostly because we have had problems with keeping the ratchet type tight. We use grades 70 and 100 chain for most things.

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RobMD

05-07-2008 15:06:15

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Re: Binding A Load...Flatbed Trailer in reply to Glenn F., 05-07-2008 14:30:38

I bind them with two chains, front and rear and over-center binders (big pipe, too).

Anything more than 2 chains on a tractor smaller than a 4320 is ridiculous, in my opinion.

My brother chains down CAT 963's with 4 binders.

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