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making a wd series allis chalmers run???????

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Adam1980

04-20-2008 07:02:22




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I am working on a allis chalmers wd series tractor I have gas and spark. I checked the the plugs and also did a compression test it will turn over but will not run any Ideas would be greatly appreciated




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sammyd

04-22-2008 02:30:10




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:02:22  
Maybe it just isn't ready to work.
Mine played he!! with me this spring.
Comp good, spark good, plugs gapped, fuel all over, rolled over nice.
Wouldn't start.
I even blew a touch of ether in it.

Was getting pretty disgusted with the thing and threatening to get rid of it. Day after I looked at something new it started up on the first roll of the starter.



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El Toro

04-21-2008 16:11:00




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:02:22  
You need to bring No1 piston to TDC on the compression stroke. Pull No1 plug near the radiator and hold your thumb over the plug hole
until you feel compression while someone is cranking the engine slowly. Once you feel compression you can drop a LARGE handle screwdriver on top of the piston and watch it rise as the engine is slowly cranked. When it quits rising you should be at TDC. Your timing marks should be aligned and both valves on that cylinder should be closed. Pull the cap and see where your rotor is pointing. It should be at the No1 plug tower. If its off something may have jumped time. You can still have good fire to the plugs, but it's not firing at the correct time. That's probably why it quit if you find its off. Hal

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school boy

04-21-2008 10:10:14




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:02:22  
have you taken the hose from the breather off the carb. If something plugged it and blocks the air it wont matter how much spark or gas you get. Also, are you sure gas is getting to the engine. Manytimes a chunk of rust will plug the jet in the carb and even with a full bolw ther will be none getting to the engine.



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trucker40

04-20-2008 22:37:30




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:02:22  
Gas and Spark,good compression.Ought to run.Spark may not be as good as you think.Might try new plugs.To check the timing do this,find the TDC mark and take out number one plug,put a screwdriver in the spark plug hole and turn the motor with a wrench until the piston is all the way up,the TDC mark on the crank pulley should be close to the pointer,if it has one.Keep in mind that its a 4 stroke motor,then if you are on the compression stroke,both valves will be closed.Is that what you meant when you said valves are loose?Anyway you can crank it over with your thumb over number one spark plug hole,when compression blows your thumb off the hole it should be compression stroke,take distributer cap off,and the rotor should be pointing close to number one plug wire.Maybe just past number one wire.If this checks out you could need a new distributer cap,rotor,maybe a wire is shorted out,bad plugs,bad gas,bad switch maybe.Chances are its not out of time if the valves are working.Maybe you need to pull the valve cover and make sure the valves are working and that would make it easier to check and see if you are on the compression stroke or not.The first thing is to see if the valves are working,then check the timing,if thats good then its something easy most likely,cap,rotor points,plugs,condenser,wire.Ive seen motors spark,had gas,new everything,and not run.Lots of times it was points,and plugs too,rotors.I have had plugs be bad right out of the box,points and condenser too,even a new distributer cap one time,spent a whole day trying to get it running and finally changed cap and got it running.I guess it just breaks down in there or something,or in the case of that cap it just wouldnt pass fire through to the wires.It has to have real good fire.

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PJH

04-20-2008 14:09:06




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:02:22  
New fuel? If your fuel has been in the tank since last year, it ain't helping your problem.



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garytomaszewski

04-20-2008 08:09:56




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:02:22  
Choke and crank ALOT if you end up with gas soaked plugs then you know it is a spark problem, if not obviously it's gas. Mag or battery? Mag-does impulse work, is there a Fat 3/8 inch spark? IS it in time? Battery-same questions. Put in new plugs and try again, only thing a engine needs to run is fuel and spark at the right time in the right proportion.



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Adam1980

04-20-2008 08:20:02




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to garytomaszewski, 04-20-2008 08:09:56  
We have done all that got gas and spark and even checked the valves on the engine they are in the right place and loose so the timming is ok it has a battery this tractor is confusing the hell out of me it worked fine last summer then just up and quit and hasent started since it has a battery



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bradk

04-20-2008 07:17:44




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:02:22  
What did you end up with for compression? What was done to tractor? Any engine work? Was tractor sitting a while?

The more info,the better.



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Adam1980

04-20-2008 07:32:33




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to bradk, 04-20-2008 07:17:44  
tractor just stop running last summer just up and quit compression was 120 on all 4 cylinders no engine work? possible timming issue? not sure gow to adjust



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JMS/.MN

04-20-2008 21:35:54




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:32:33  

FWIW- instant stop is usually an electrical issue, sputtering stop- is usually a fuel issue. Your compression is good, timing does not go out in an instant, unless gears break. KISS formula- simple things first.



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old

04-20-2008 08:30:14




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 Re: making a wd series allis chalmers run??????? in reply to Adam1980, 04-20-2008 07:32:33  
Whats the spark look like?? It needs to be a blue/white spark not a yellow spark and it needs to jump a gap of 1/4 inch. If the spark is weak it will not run. I would check, clean and regap the points. You could also have a cracked rotor, seen that happen and you will/can have spark but not when you should because the rotor is not tight. You might also try holding your hand over the carb air intake and see if it then trys to fire

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