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Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas

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Glenn F

04-15-2008 10:26:56




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What sheilding gas do you folks use with your wire feed welders, straight CO2 or 75/25 CO2/Argon?

My experience has been with CO2, but my twenty pound bottle is too small and I would like to buy a bigger one, but the twenty pounder is the largest straight CO2 bottle I can buy.

I do farm welding, maintenence welding, general fabrication, auto body welding, etc. I frequently use used steel. I also have an arc welder which I use extensively.

As always, I APPRECIATE your comments/advice.


Glenn F.

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Stan in Oly, WA

04-15-2008 11:25:26




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Glenn F, 04-15-2008 10:26:56  
Hi Glenn,

Actually the 75/25 mix is 75% Argon---not that knowing that makes any difference in the way you'll weld.

Regarding use on mild steel only, straight CO2 produces a hotter weld puddle for the voltage, a lot of spatter, and a less enjoyable welding experience, somehow. Whether its lower price should influence you depends on how much gas shielded welding you're going to be doing. Unless the savings is going to be significant, you might want to treat yourself to the more enjoyable experience of welding with C25, as 25% CO2 / 75% Argon is called.

All the best, Stan

P.S. I kind of like the name Mimmermatic, but if you HAD gotten an editor, he or she would have caught Sheilding, too. It's Shielding. I never criticize people's spelling on this forum (or elsewhere) unless they bring it up---then I'm on it like a terrier on a rat.

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Glenn F.

04-15-2008 12:18:42




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 04-15-2008 11:25:26  
Thanks for the welding advice.

After I posted that Millermatic correction I noticed the Shielding mis-spelling, but I wasn't about to post another correction.

Spelling is not my gift!


Glenn



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Stan in Oly, WA

04-15-2008 14:05:35




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Glenn F., 04-15-2008 12:18:42  
Hi Glenn,

Being a good speller nowadays will do a person about as much good as being able to wiggle his ears. I do have a bit of a gift for spelling---not spelling bee spelling, just the usual---which I would gladly trade for just about any other gift.

All the best, Stan



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jose bagge

04-15-2008 10:47:30




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Glenn F, 04-15-2008 10:26:56  
I use the CO2/ Argon....but I do not do any aluminum welding with it. Never had a problem using it with steel, though.



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glennster

04-15-2008 10:46:20




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Glenn F, 04-15-2008 10:26:56  
i use 75/25 in my migs for welding steel.



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Glenn F.

04-15-2008 10:28:34




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Glenn F, 04-15-2008 10:26:56  
MILLERMATIC....I need to hire an editor!

Glenn



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Rook

04-15-2008 11:03:01




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Glenn F., 04-15-2008 10:28:34  
Go find some other store that will sell you a bigger bottle and go with Co2.

Unless you need to do bodywork or just need some way to throw away money with mixed gasses, Co2 will be just fine. And much cheaper.

I certified on 3/8 plate with Co2 without a problem and know it welds just fine.

I'll bet they'll refill that big bottle they won't sell. If not maybe you don't need gas after all. Just run flux core.

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Den N Ms

04-15-2008 17:21:17




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Rook, 04-15-2008 11:03:01  
Welding mild steel,auto body work Co2 Argon mix will work the best for you.Cleaner welds and less splatter, and build up in the nozisle. Flux core (no way) useless in my opinion,just as well use a stick welder.You must use straight Argon gas for aluminum welding.



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Slowpoke

04-28-2008 01:02:45




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 Re: Mimmermatic 200 Sheilding Gas in reply to Den N Ms, 04-15-2008 17:21:17  
A local long time, well respected welding shop has switched to flux core exclusively for the mig welders. They said they no longer have to worry about running out of gas during a job. Maybe the gas got too expensive. Their rate is $100/hour.



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