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john mulholland

09-03-2001 10:21:53




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We recently purchased your homelite 14"
chainsaw. I am one of the fue people that actuall reads the instructions and all material.
After reading the instructions for gas and oil mix (4 oz to 1 Gallon of gas) I read the lable
to the 2 cycle oil that comes with the chainsaw.
It is only 2.8 oz and states that it is enough
for 1 gallon of gas. Which am I suppose to use????? ????? ???? Please respond..... .....I know that if I
burn up My chainsaw you will not replace it.
I am sure that other customers have followed the instructions on the oil container, and have burned
up their equipment. A very upset customer John Mulholland

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jim

06-21-2002 20:36:02




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
K-Mart and Walmart sell a mix bottle Manufactured by Sea-Sense that is easy to use. It lists several mixs, you only need to know how many gallons of gas is in the can and the correct mix ratio and the bottle gives you the fill line for the oil. And if my equipment stated to use 16-1 I would never use any other mix.



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BillW

03-14-2002 08:10:30




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
HOMELITE has 2 different mixes...32:1 and 50:1. Just be very careful when measuring the 50:1 as an error wil be almost doubled. Bill Walcott



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John in MA

09-04-2001 19:08:54




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
Newer oils may be _capable_ of leaner oil/gas mixtures, but using the old ratio won't hurt anything. You'll still have the same amount of oil floating around in there. If anything, the new oil is cleaner. A friend also cooked an old Homelite (needle-bearing) demo saw by using some "80:1" oil. The saw was designed for a 16:1 mix.

Anyway, Homelite usually specifies two mixtures for use in their saws. The ratio with more oil is supposed to be for other brands of oils. The ratio with less oil is supposed to be for Homelite-brand oil. Could this explain the difference between your manual and you oil?

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Al English

09-05-2001 17:48:18




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 Re: Re: oil mix in reply to John in MA, 09-04-2001 19:08:54  
Hi John,

An 80:1 oil ratio is the "super lean mixture type oils" I was referring to in my earlier post. Anyone who feels they are getting good service life from this type of oil just hasn't been using it long enough...Al English



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Redtractorman

09-04-2001 11:30:46




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
I use Amesoil Synthetic,2 ounces to 1 gallon gas,it works great in all 2 cycle engine made in the last 25 years.



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BB

09-04-2001 10:14:15




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
Most 2 cycle engines specify either a 32 to 1 or a 40 to 1 gas/oil mix. If it is 32 to 1, you mix 4 oz of oil to one gallon of gas (128 oz in a gallon). If it requires 40 to 1, you mix 3.2 oz oil per gallon of gas. Too little oil can cause overheating due to inadequate lubrication. Too much oil can cause plug fouling.



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ferrell freeman

09-04-2001 08:59:35




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
Well JIMK ,they were only looking for help and I,thought that was what this site was all about. CHARLIE, was right in his mixture . AL ENGLISH ,was correct in the problems from to rich oil mixture and also to lean mixture .What you might have to do is buy an 8 oz. or 16oz. bottle of oil .



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Jim K

09-04-2001 17:27:19




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 Re: Re: oil mix in reply to ferrell freeman, 09-04-2001 08:59:35  
I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone I had total confidence that mr mulhollands question would get answered I just wanted to let him know that he was giving the wrong website a good chewing out. I certainly would want to know if it was me.
Although he probably has no clue that he sent it here, it was probably meant for SEARS or someplace like that and is sitting home wondering why they aren't replying to his Email.

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Al English

09-03-2001 17:25:01




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
Hi john,

What I'm going to tell you applies to all "pre-mix"(non-oil injection) two cycle engines, EXCEPT ones which have one or more plain bearings(bushings) rather than all ball, roller, or needle bearings. Unless you have a VERY old saw, it will not have any plain bearings.

The oil, and not the engine, determines the mixing ratio. The penalty for using a "richer" oil mix than the oil manufacturer specifies is slightly less power, shorter plug life, and faster accumulation or carbon deposits. The penalty for using a "leaner" oil mixture than the oil manufacturer recommends is shorter engine life. Unless maximum power is more important than engine life do not use synthetic oil in a two-cycle engine. And for the same reasons, also avoid the super lean mixture type oils. Hope this helps...Al English

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Jim K

09-03-2001 13:52:13




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
Since when does YT magazine sell chain saws.
I think you have the wrong web site.



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charlie

09-03-2001 13:38:36




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 Re: oil mix in reply to john mulholland, 09-03-2001 10:21:53  
your saw is a 32 to 1 mix ratio.this means for every quart of gas you need 1 ounce of oil.good luck



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ray carr

03-06-2002 08:22:13




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 Re: Re: oil mix in reply to charlie, 09-03-2001 13:38:36  
is there a list of formulas for gas oil ratio? i have several pieces of equipment that have 32;1/40;1 ratios and i forget the mixture rates/ ounces of oil to 1 gallon of gas, is there a quikie reference sheet or table available?



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Mac

09-04-2001 10:20:12




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 Re: Re: oil mix in reply to charlie, 09-03-2001 13:38:36  
This does get confusing. Seems no standard. Stihl dealer says their oil 3.8 oz per gal is good for anything. Then snapper dealer says their oil, use 1 bottle per gal of gas. Good for anything?? Yet Mfgr says one thing and the qts of oil says something else. Looks like they could standardize these mixtures? My saw and leaf blower takes one mixture, weedeater and small tiller takes another.
My aggravated .02 worth. Thanks

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wdgloff

09-04-2001 17:39:21




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 Re: Re: Re: oil mix in reply to Mac, 09-04-2001 10:20:12  
It is the oil, not the machine. How else would 100 to 1 oil ever work? Stihl mix has progressed from 32 to 1 to 50 to 1 over the last 20 years. If the oil says 32 to 1 you better mix it that way or repairs will be in order. I use the Stihl oil in every brand that comes in the shop and all will run better on it. This is backed by 20 years of successful chainsaw repair.



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