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Hand Post Driver

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Dachshund

04-04-2008 02:50:16




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I know, a lot of you use the FEL for pushing in posts, but what do you use when you have to use a hand driver? I have one of those fancy ones with the two handles, but can't use the durn thing! After about three slaps, my hands hurt so bad that I can't grab the thing anymore. I have and old Steel tube with a plug welded in one end that works really well - and doesn't hurt my hands. Just wondering what you use.

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balatonm

04-08-2008 11:22:17




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
We use the same when we have to.



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Michael Soldan

04-06-2008 06:47:55




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
Not only can you injure your hands buy you can rip up the rotator cuffs in your shoulders. I drove several posts at the cottage to build stairs, that was four years ago and my shoulders haven't been right since. Now I use a sledge.



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ericlb

04-05-2008 17:16:37




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
i got me a homemade one that is pretty old, it has a 3 inch iron pipe for the main section the end is plugged filled with lead then a cap is welded on that, the handels go from top to bottom, nicknamed "the mankiller" it weighs about 50 to 60 lbs, [ i havent actually weighed it but a 50 lb sack of feed seems lighter than it] it will drive a t post to the spade in about 4 or 5 blowes,rest breaks are often using it, and it works best by loosly holding the handles on the way down

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RobMD

04-05-2008 17:06:40




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
Back in the day, my father set in 350 steel posts with a sledgehammer while standing on a case.

That takes ambition.



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hay

04-05-2008 03:37:07




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
years ago when i worked for the state highway dept., they had a post driver made of 3" steel pipe slightly oval shape and handles of 3/4" steel rod that ran almost the entire length. it weighed about 30 lbs and after a whole day of driving posts into stabilized iron ore, that was all a person wanted to do and we had to do that every day. that was the job, just driving posts for reflectors. the vibration was horrible and even gloves did not help my hands. worked at that job for almost 10 years. sure did build up my arms and shoulder muscles.

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Hal (WA)

04-04-2008 21:21:49




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
I have one that was made by someone locally a long time ago. It has handles made of about 3/4" round steel rod that are parallel to the heavy pounding tube with a steel weight welded in the end. The handles go almost from one end of the tube to the other. I think it weighs about 25 pounds and it can be challenging to put over the top of a 6.5' T post. So I have learned to put it over the post before I position the bottom end of the post where I want it. Then I tip up the tool and post and try to pound the post in more or less vertically. I have found that if the T posts are a little out of level, it isn't too hard to bend them a bit to make them look right. Using steel T posts and barb wire is about the easiest way to build a cow fence.

When I pound T posts, I wear heavy leather gloves and let them do some slipping on the handles about the time that the heavy end weight of the tool hits the top of the T post as it drops. This time of year is the best time to put in posts, since the ground is still very soft, at least around here. Often it only takes 3 or 4 hits to put the post in as deep as I want it, unless I hit rock. I have put in more than 100 posts per day lots of times without my hands really hurting much. I wish I could say the same about handling barb wire!

You might try a few more posts and try to use the technique of not gripping the handles so tightly. If you have a real tight hold of the handles when the tool hits the top of the post, there would probably be a lot of shock on your hands. Good luck, hope it works better for you!

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Dachshund

04-05-2008 01:38:08




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Hal (WA), 04-04-2008 21:21:49  
Yeah, I've tried "letting go" at the end of the throw. The driver I bought is just not heavy enough. It is taking up space in the shed and will probably be sent to China soon. The handles aren't very wide, and are angled at the bottom, so thet doesn't help. I've found that the round tube one I have works the best. I wish I was fast enough anymore, so I could do all the fence I need to do this month while the ground is still soft! I'm lucky to get 3-4 wood posts and 7-8 T posts in in a day before I gotta quit. The old back, knees and hips ain't what they used to be!

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T_Bone

04-05-2008 06:04:08




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-05-2008 01:38:08  
Hi Dachshund,

I agree with Hal if your driver is to light weight it will cause you more work than a driver of the correct weight, about 25lbs.

Mine is a piece of 3" pipe with a 3/4" plate end cap with 1/2" rod handles. Three to four blows and it'll drive T posts 18". I also let go just before the hammer hits.

T_Bone



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railhead

04-05-2008 06:03:29




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-05-2008 01:38:08  
Dachsund, the "not heavy enough" part can be fixed with some pipe welded on bottom and some more solid steel welded on the top. As for the handles, torch them off, grind smooth, and just pick the driver up by the tube to drive with. I had a neighbor who is now gone but he had the same trouble. I made him a driver out of pipe with no handles and he used it as much as he was able at that time. He was in his 80's then.

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Dachshund

04-05-2008 06:48:40




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to railhead, 04-05-2008 06:03:29  
Yeah, that's what I have to use now - works MUCH better then the handled one. I've had it for awhile. Got it REAL cheap - 25� at an auction.



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Rickstir

04-04-2008 08:34:32




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
Bought the $20.00 tow-handled one at Home Depot. I lift it and let it free fall on the post. Pound for pound, the most useful, knuckle saving tool I have at the farm.



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dave2

04-04-2008 04:54:38




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
I have a homemade one that had big handles on it. Got it from my neighbor who had used it for a couple thousand years to drive wooden posts. I used it fine until I started on steel T-posts and the handles eventually busted off. Having it heavier at the bottom is a great idea. Does it work just as well? Was using a big top heavy one about 25 years ago and didn't realize the post was going in so fast. Still have a scar and dent in my forehead.

If you're sore afterwards, you're doing something wrong. I usually set in the shade and drink a beer while I figure out what the problem is.

Good Luck,

Dave

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railhead

04-04-2008 05:17:27




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to dave2, 04-04-2008 04:54:38  
I bought a factory made driver at a farm sale. Then, first time I used it, I did the forehead thing too....nearly knocked myself out, and the blood.....it was bad. I used 2 7/8 pipe and made my driver about 8 inches longer so the top of the post doesn"t get lower than the bottom of the driver. And added about 4 pounds of weight to the top to drive posts faster. now it is good.



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TomH in PA

04-06-2008 07:59:00




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to railhead, 04-04-2008 05:17:27  
Around here we call them Russian Sledgehammers. Got myself on the head once too. Scalp cuts sure do bleed a lot.



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railhead

04-06-2008 16:40:50




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to TomH in PA, 04-06-2008 07:59:00  
They sure do. While we are on the subject of scalp cuts...when I was a kid it had snowed SEVERAL inches where I lived. For days the temp would get just above freezing and then freeze at night with all this snow on the ground. It would melt the top of the snow a little and freeze back, making the crust on the snow thicker and thicker till you finally could walk on top of it and I mean you were still 12-16 inches above grade. Well I was at a friends house and had no sled so I managed to figure out that if I laid on my back, my nylon coat made a pretty darn good sled. I went faster than a bat out of heck several times down a hill in a pasture till the 4th or 5th time, I hit a barbed wire fence and a barb stuck me in the top of the head. being cold and having fun, the pain was not a problem but it bled like a gusher. When i got to his Mom's house, I must have looked like a murder victim because even though I was saying it is no big deal his Mom FREAKED OUT. I was fine...(maybe, i think)....but that does support your statement that scalp cuts bleed badly.

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jose bagge

04-04-2008 04:51:11




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
I purchased the 19.99 one at TSC and it works great for me....broke 3 5lb sledge hammers before I actually bought the right tool for the job



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moonlite 37

04-04-2008 04:25:56




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
All manufactured ones I have seen have a heavy weight in the top. I made mine with HEAVY handles near the bottom and is much better balanced. The manufactured ones get top heavy wheb dropping over the top of the post.



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Daniel Henebry

04-04-2008 03:47:35




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
I have two with the handles and when i first got one I had the same problem with my hands hurting. You have to learn to use the handles to lift the driver and then slam it down and releasing your grip as it goes down. This uses the weight of the post driver and its momentum to drive the post and not your hands and arms pulling on the handles.



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chevdud97

04-04-2008 03:45:53




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 Re: Hand Post Driver in reply to Dachshund, 04-04-2008 02:50:16  
My stepdads Guatamalin helper.



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