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J W

03-26-2008 19:45:08




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What is the best tiller for a new garden? The Troy-Bilt Rear tine 195cc or the Craftsman Rear tine rated at 8.25 torque? Secondly, for a small garden do you really need reverse? The Troy does not have reverse.




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Bret4207

03-30-2008 06:40:06




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
I'm with Alex and Bob way down at the bottom of the thread- Gravely or a Fraiser Rototiller. Mind you, you can't be any sissy-boy to use one, but those were real machines! Nice thing with a Gravely is you can make nice raised beds as you go.



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Leland

03-28-2008 21:23:24




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
I would not own another sears rear tine if it was free ,they are built very light and good for a small gardener ,I like the troybilt better . I bet 1 spring I sheared 100 pins in the tine drive of the sears



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RegoR

03-28-2008 05:42:44




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
Hi JW,

I use Craftsman that's going on 15 years and never had a problem with it. My garden had been 20 x 40, but it's smaller now in a different location and I would not be without the reverse option.

Good luck with your purchase.

Roger



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El Toro

03-28-2008 03:57:55




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
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I always plow the garden before tilling and it saves the wear and tear on the tines. Hal



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El Toro

03-27-2008 16:45:35




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
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I like the Troy Bilt. Had about 30 of them. Hal



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higgins

03-27-2008 11:44:38




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
If you're breaking new ground; any tiller will jerk you around when tines are turning forward. A rear tine with counter rotating is way better for that. Need a front tine if you're doing flower beds up next to the house.... I have a 10 or more yr old Husky from TSC that I've used on 100' X 100' and it does OK. It's the kind that has a big long belt that squeaks sometimes but belt dressing clears that up - overdue for replacement. Works about as well as my former neighbor's old TroyBilt. I think the tines rotate too fast though.

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Mike M

03-27-2008 10:28:44




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
Or maybe better yet if not super big ? do as my mom has been doing. If you allready have an established garden spot a Mantis will do a fine job of working it up in the spring and cultivating. Mom LOVES that little Mantis !



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JT

03-27-2008 09:25:40




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
Bar far the best tiller is a BCS, you will not beat it for durabilty. Now it is not a cheap priced tiller like the new Troy Bilts by MTD or the Craftsman, but if you want a tiller that will last you a life time, BCS cannot be beat. Now belts, has an actual clutch. Has straight cut gears in transmission. Has a lot of attchments you can put on it to make it a complete unit.
Jim



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Bob85355

03-27-2008 09:44:31




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to JT, 03-27-2008 09:25:40  
Best for a small garden? Depends on how small and how much money you want to spend.

Counter rotating tines are good for breaking ground but not very good for tilling loose soil. The wheels tend to spin and not go anywhere.

The rear tine tillers are nice that they move without much effort but are a pain in the rear when used in small spaces. they are difficult to turn and you really need a reverse gear.

The front tine tiller does tend to jump when you hit a rock or a root. They are lighter weight and easier to turn and pull backwards. My front tine tiller has longer tines than my rear tine tiller and consequently I get a deeper tilling with it.

If I had to pick one machine only and I had a garden of not more than 40 by 40 feet, I"d take a front tine from one of the big box stores.

Bob

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JT

03-27-2008 14:27:39




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to Bob85355, 03-27-2008 09:44:31  
The man ask for what the best tiller is, I gave him an honest answer.



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NBAllen

03-27-2008 08:53:35




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
After using a Troy-Bilt and a Craftsman, I prefer the Craftsman BECAUSE of the counter-rotating tines.

In hard ground, the Counter-rotating tines do not catch and launch the tiller forward (into a tree or the fence).

I'm sure the Troy-Bilt dealer support is many times better than Sears'.

I looked at a BCS several years ago, and now really wish I had bought it - a much more versatile machine and many attachment options.

Nathaniel

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NBAllen

03-27-2008 08:53:22




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
After using a Troy-Bilt and a Craftsman, I prefer the Craftsman BECAUSE of the counter-rotating tines.

In hard ground, the Counter-rotating tines do not catch and launch the tiller forward (into a tree or the fence).

I'm sure the Troy-Bilt dealer support is many times better than Sears'.

I looked at a BCS several years ago, and now really wish I had bought it - a much more versatile machine and many attachment options.

Nathaniel

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Sal T Slough

03-27-2008 08:45:21




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
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If it's a small garden with a fence or any object to any side of it, and a rear tine tiller, you will want reverse. Because when you come to the end and want to turn around there isn't enough room.

My favorite is my Snapper Tiller. They also were sold as Merry Tillers.

I found out about them at the rental yard where they were the staple rental tiller followed by BCS for the big boy.

It's light, and powerfull. With it's flip away wheels and easy setting drag spike adjustments it's pretty nice. Once you learn it let it ride on the spike it gets the job done fast and easy.

Granted a big rear tine might be best for sod bustin', I 've spent a lot of time behind one being taken for a ride when it bites in and takes off.

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Ken in Arkansas

03-27-2008 08:38:47




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
I have a Husqvarna 55 rear tine tiller I bought in 1995. The transmission is brokes and is stuck in the "till" position. I still use the tiller, but I really miss having a reverse. It makes tilling much harder.

If I am working a small area, a spading fork turns the ground nicely and provides more exercise.



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Vally Farm

03-27-2008 08:38:33




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
I agree with BCS. No belts to slip, better design, and can be passed down to your grandkids if you want. More costly today, but saving money every day here after. Any of them with a stamped tin frame are already to weak to start with. Mike



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duckl

03-27-2008 07:15:42




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
a shovel and a nice afternoon for a small garden. Will not only improve vascular functions but help with the attitude and is a lot easier to start



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Billy NY

03-27-2008 05:54:31




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
There was some discussion on Troy Built's early this winter, do a search maybe you can find it.

Some of the commentary revolved around performance, soil conditions and how it relates to the ease of operation with a few manufacturers listed.


I've used a 8Hp mid 80's for quite some time, they're not bad once the ground is broken. Hard ground like the glacial till we have here, kind of a loam, with some clay and gravel, is hard tilling when the soil is dry, but even sod bound new areas that have a decent layer of top soil, will eventually till up nicely, have to make numerous passes and increase the depth gradually. If you prepare a garden area by excavating out unsuitable soils and replacing with a good mix with lots of oraganics etc., it makes tilling very easy. Working on flat ground is a help too, I used to till a larger garden that had a slight incline to one side, takes more effort from the operator. They used to be and probably still are quite durable, I thought they were well built. They used to be built a few miles from where I live, moved 10 years ago. Some of the other manufacturers may be better performing, best to see what works well in what soil conditions that are close to what you are working in.

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Mike M

03-27-2008 04:18:13




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
BCS



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Don L C

03-27-2008 11:15:39




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to Mike M, 03-27-2008 04:18:13  
What ia a BCS and where do I get one?



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36 coupe

03-27-2008 12:55:39




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to Don L C, 03-27-2008 11:15:39  
BCS is built in Italy ,good machine but cost 2 grand now.



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ispud

03-27-2008 00:03:05




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
Troy Built & you will at some point will WANT reverse.



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Bob Huntress

03-26-2008 22:43:34




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
Fraiser!



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Alex-41JDb

03-26-2008 20:19:49




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 Re: Best Tiller in reply to J W, 03-26-2008 19:45:08  
A gravely with the rotary plow attatchment does wonders. Can regulary be had for under 400 and there is a millions attachments. Sorry I have no experience with the others, but I know you can live with out reverse.
Alex



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