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Andy

08-28-2001 09:13:22

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Okay it's not a power tool, but I suspect some of you dabble with drafting software for laying out projects. I'm looking at Autocad LT and was curious as to what kind of learning curve is involved? Will it take me hours or days to come up to speed? I realize Autocad is probably overkill for the typical DIY projects but it looks like they have excellent product support. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Jim Kasten

08-30-2001 18:57:21

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

As one who does this professionally, I have used both Autocad, Autocadlt and Cadkey. If I were buying a program, I would choose Cadkey.

Cadkey is so much easier to learn to use. Autocad is a great program, But difficult to learn, has a long learning curve. Cadkey is very simple to use.

I would look on E-bay for a used Cadkey program. A windows version, 7.5 or higher.

Jim

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Jerry B

08-29-2001 09:18:37

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

No one mentioned Cad Key. Could be a reason for that BUT it is what I teach beginning CAD students and it seems very simple to use. I think the last version I bought on CD containd both the DOS version as well as a windows version.

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Great Info..Thanks!

08-29-2001 08:21:28

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

Thanks for all the comments, your info was very helpful. Andy

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Ken

08-28-2001 18:31:09

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

If you go to www.download.cnet.com and search:CAD,
you will get 135 postings. The one I played with was CADSTD Lite 3.5.2. It is freeware and without going through trial periods it will teach you basic commands and terminology. After working with it, you will be able to make a good decision on what you like and don't like. Maybe it will be all you need!

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bbott

08-28-2001 17:41:22

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

I'll second the comments on EASYCAD.

It is quite literally, the easiest one I've used... and I've used AutoCad, TurboCad, DesignCad..and a few others my mind has (fortunately) blotted out.

Some of the things I like best..

Common boolean logic for selecting objects...
"this line AND this circle and NOT this square"

Infinite scaling.. you can expand or contract your drawing 'universe' at will

And overall 'common sense' layout and controls.

Download it and give it a try. It's big brother 'Fastcad' has additional features and speed.. but it's likely you won't need them for awhile.

bbott

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Eric NC

08-28-2001 16:49:24

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

I don`t know what type of projects you are working on. But I found a very good Architectural drawing program called Home Plan Pro. It is sharewear,and is only about $40 WWW.homeplanpro.com

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Clark Manlove

08-28-2001 16:41:28

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

I have been running AutoCAD for 12 or so years and have come very dependent on it. LT is a good product for beginners whom at least have a basic knowledge of drafting concepts. Comands are just that. "I want to DRAW a line. I want to ERASE an object". With all my junk a drafting board and all it's stuff just takes up to much space!! Good luck, If you need a hand, e-mail

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Keith

08-28-2001 16:29:44

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

I don't know alot about CAD software but I will put in my two cents. I have used Auto cad, but bought turbo cad and I dont' like it very well, it is alot cheaper, so I got what I paid for Keith

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Branden

08-28-2001 15:28:23

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

Try Auto-desk. I believe that this program gets into 3D modeling and such. Could be costly though, as it is geared more for the engineer, but I've seen some things kicked out of that program and it is really something.

Branden

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Bill Oakes

08-28-2001 14:39:01

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

Andy,

I have used FastCad for years. It is the only package I have used so can't help with comparisons. You can take a look for FREE. Go to their web site - fastcad.com - you can download a sample copy of the program. As I remember it is only limited in that the print function is disabled. You can play with it and make your own decision. There is also a less expensive version call EasyCad; also available as a free download. I like the "try before you buy" concept.

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john d

08-28-2001 13:57:54

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

We use AutoSketch in our junior high classes. It's by the same folks that produce AutoCad, and is considerably cheaper and easier to learn. It does NOT have all the features of AutoCad, but AutoCad has a lot of features you may never need!

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John ('48 Cub, Ohio)

08-28-2001 12:09:28

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

I use AutoCAD at work. I completely agree that knowing some basic drafting will make your learning curve faster. The hardest part is learning what tools perform the function that you want to perform. AutoCAD has a bunch of capabilities that you never see unless you go looking for them. We are pretty efficient here, but we use it 8+ hours a day and have customized our menus to include all of the tools that we like and use regularly. For home use, if you don't want to cough up the price of LT, some of the more simplistic packages like BasiCAD (don't know if they are still around) may be enough.

JohnP

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08-28-2001 10:21:39

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Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 09:13:22

I use AutoCad LT at work. It really is not too difficult to use providing you have some experience in drafting. The light version does not give you 3D capabilities but is fine for 2D prints. I would recommend that you look at Solid Edge as well. I got a copy for my brother (who has no drafting skills) and he was using it in a couple of weeks to produce assembly drawings. The difference is that the AutoCAD is drawn using wire frame so you have to be able to "see" what you are drafting by looking at a 2D skeleton. The Solid Edge program is a 3D modeler so you draw and can see the prototype like it is a solid object sitting on your desktop. It will then create 2D layout prints and an isometric drawing from the 3D model. List price at the time I got it for him was about the same.

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Clark Manlove

08-28-2001 16:45:35

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Re: Re: CAD Software in reply to CR, 08-28-2001 10:21:39

you should try Solid Works!!!

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Andy

08-28-2001 13:35:54

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Re: Re: CAD Software in reply to CR, 08-28-2001 10:21:39

CR, I called Solid Edge, it turns out they no longer offer the low end product, so I'm guess I'm back to Autocad.

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Andy

08-28-2001 12:56:42

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Re: Re: CAD Software in reply to CR, 08-28-2001 10:21:39

Thanks! So do you think Solidedge would be easier to learn even if I'm only doing 2D? Also, any problems importing Autocad drawings into Solidedge and vice versa? Thanks again.

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Mark

08-31-2001 18:10:14

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Re: Re: Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 12:56:42

Andy, Solid Edge is 5K. As far as I know they still offer Origin 3D for about $400. I you are just going to use it an hour here and there,I'd stay with something simple,else it will be very frustrating. If you like Autocad LT,take a look at Intellicad at cadopia.com. It's a LT clone and the standard version is only a little over a $100.
HTH,Mark

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Greg S

08-28-2001 14:13:15

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Re: Re: Re: CAD Software in reply to Andy, 08-28-2001 12:56:42

Andy,
Autocad LT is relatively easy to use and although the destruction manuals packed with the software are written in gobbledy-gook there are some manuals from third party sources that actually make sense. If you know a college student autodesk makes all their software available to students with a pretty substantial discount. I started using Autocad at about rev level 5 and am now up to Acad 2002.If autocad doesn't float your boat or the price is too high there are a lot of cad programs that are just as good as autocad. Its kinda like apple computers in the schools, the name recognition seems to be the big deal.

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