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mark

03-14-2008 03:09:42

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I"m shopping for a new angle grinder....probably a 4 1/2" model....I have no need for a heavy monster. I have been looking at Metabo brand. Anybody have any experince with them?

What other brands seem to be durable and comfortable to use?

I had a Craftsman that lasted maybe 4 hours actual use...considering it"s 2 minutes here, maybe 15 minutes there...anyway...it was a POS!

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sheiserman

03-14-2008 19:56:12

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

The two best I've ever used are the 5" Makita (9 amp), and the 6" Metabo (12 amp). The body of the 6" Metabo is roughly the same as the 4 1/2", just a bigger handguard to accommodate the bigger grinding wheel. 6" Metabo also has the overload protection, which I really don't care for. Metabo comes in either a slide or paddle switch.

I'll take the 5" Makita everytime.

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T_Bone

03-15-2008 00:36:07

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Re: angle grinders in reply to sheiserman, 03-14-2008 19:56:12

Hi Mark,

I gotta agree with sheiserman, If you ever want to move up to a better ginder, look at the Makita 9505B as it's a 5", 10krpm, 5/8" spindle, about $125 and really is a great sized grinder. I've used them for the past 30yrs with great results and own 3 of them.

I use them for general light grinding plus use them with a 6" cut off wheel for cutting SS and other metals. Just have your act together when using them for cutting as it's very dangerous.

I have 7" Milwaukee for the heavy grinding. You just can't beat this hog for the heavy stuff.

T_Bone

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Spook

03-14-2008 17:17:40

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I have a Millwaukee, but my iron worker buddys all have Metabo's and swear by them.

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jose bagge

03-14-2008 17:40:17

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Re: angle grinders in reply to Spook, 03-14-2008 17:17:40

Do you find that the cords deteriorate on the Milwalkees? I have a Milwalkee 7" and the cord looks like something it's been left in death valley- same thing with my Milwalkee chop saw's power cord. Other similar "era" tool's cords look a-ok....

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Spook

03-15-2008 05:28:32

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Re: angle grinders in reply to jose bagge, 03-14-2008 17:40:17

I have had the grinder for 10 years. I don't use it often, so when I finish, it goes back in it's box. So it still looks good.

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Bernoulli/OZ

03-14-2008 13:47:30

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I like my Metabo. My welder pals use Bosch or Metabo. Get one that fits your hands so it's comfortable to use.

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Grinder

03-14-2008 11:04:19

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Metabo's have a slip clutch so are much harder to burn out or overload. I worked in a big shop that used only Metabo's. They cost a lot more but they last a lot longer. I've heard that Fein makes really good grinders that don't power out. Other name brands are good too, but it's hard to go wrong with a Metabo. You do get what you pay for with grinders.

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jack12345

03-14-2008 10:39:19

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Check out Homedepot they have 2 Makita's in pact for $79. Seems like a good deal as they want almost that much for one of the same model, they are having a tool sale.

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RobMD

03-14-2008 09:36:10

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Yeah, you don't by a craftsman. I had a craftsman about 20 years old that had never been used much, until one day 5 years ago i decided to go at a rusted farmall H hood. The grinder lasted long enough to clean off the hood nicely, but that was it. The bushings went out in the head unit (YES, BUSHINGS!).

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jose bagge

03-15-2008 06:57:23

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Re: angle grinders in reply to RobMD, 03-14-2008 09:36:10

of course, this was 20 years ago- but I went through 2 craftsmen 7"ers in 3 weeks before I bought the Milwalkee that I still have. I say that despite the fact that most of my hand tools are craftsman

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Brian G. NY

03-14-2008 12:16:36

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Re: angle grinders in reply to RobMD, 03-14-2008 09:36:10

Interesting! I have a Craftsman I bought new in "84. It has ball bearings on both ends of the spindle and BOTH ends of the armature shaft. I have used the heck out of it and it"s still going strong. One thing I do every year or so (as I do with my electric drills), is take the head apart and "redistribute" the grease in the bearings and gears.I think this little chore increases the life of these tools immensely.

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RobMD

03-15-2008 08:07:56

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Re: angle grinders in reply to Brian G. NY, 03-14-2008 12:16:36

I understand - BUT... you don't expect to regrease after grinding ONE farmall H hood.

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Don L C

03-14-2008 09:06:36

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Harbor Freight is as good as any and better than most..... .I have 5 of them ($15 each),I use them about every day..... there about 5 years old, not a bad one yet.....

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Greygoat

03-14-2008 07:41:18

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Considering the low value of the dollar, and the
high value of the Euro-In order to stay price
competitive- would Bosch have to keep lowering
the quality? Where is this "good Bosch" stuff
made?

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Cliff (VA)

03-14-2008 06:31:06

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RE: Angle Grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

One of our board members conducted a "angle grinder torture test" some time ago.

Try reading his post.

Cliff (VA)

Angle Grinder Torture Test

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john niolon

03-14-2008 06:00:08

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

My first four choices on grinders are Metabo, Metabo, Metabo and that other stuff a distant fourth.

I've got the 6" that is mainly used for cutting with a .045 disc. It's hands down the best grinder/cutter I've ever seen. I hardly use my torch or chop saw anymore... I've used it with flap disc and grinding disc and you can't kill it.

I've got Milwaukees and Dewalts and yes even had a couple of H.F. NOTHIN' matches the Metabo

I work for a pipefitting group now and that is all they use.

later
John

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Cliff Neubauer

03-14-2008 05:53:50

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I've tried several brands and so far my Metabo is my favorite. It was used when I bought it off ebay and it's still outlasted anything else I've tried.

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jose bagge

03-14-2008 05:47:23

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Harbour Freight's Drill Master brand for 9.95.....buy several. I use mine DAILY and it's still alive, plus I have a spare. WHen it lays down, i will just toss it, break out the spare and buy 2 more.
Great quality is impressive, and it shows....but i love inexpensive tools that "git 'r done".

Now- i have found that the "cheap" big grinders just do not last. My 7 is a Milwalkee, and i have a 5" cupped wire brush on an OLD 7" Black and Decker (yard sale) that is just Bombproof. Both are heavy as he11

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gab

03-14-2008 15:21:51

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Re: angle grinders in reply to jose bagge, 03-14-2008 05:47:23

I've got one of those bomb proof yard sale Black and Decker's. Paid $20.00 about fifteen years ago and still on my bestbuy list. Jim

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jose bagge

03-14-2008 17:34:13

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Re: angle grinders in reply to gab, 03-14-2008 15:21:51

does yours have the "push on/push off" switch, almost like an air impact? If so, see post below Stan's.....

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Stan in Oly, WA

03-14-2008 09:25:46

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Re: angle grinders in reply to jose bagge, 03-14-2008 05:47:23

Hi Jose,

We used to have a 7" Milwaukee angle grinder with a 5" cup brush installed at the school shop. I considered it the most dangerous tool in the place. It was available to students who were barely strong enough to use that size tool in any case, and who had never seen the kind of tool related accident that everyone who uses tools for a living eventually sees on the jobsite.

It was withdrawn from service before anyone was hurt using it, as far as I know. I miss it. It was very effective at what it did, even if it was a bit of a monster.

The surprising thing about that situation was that the head of the program who had put that tool in service (or allowed it if it was already there when he started) had once had an accident with that very setup which had resulted in a surprise skin removal from belly button to collarbone when it grabbed his shirt tail. He said it happened fast.

All the best, Stan

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jose bagge

03-14-2008 17:32:09

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Re: angle grinders in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 03-14-2008 09:25:46

I have the cup brush on the anceint B&D, which has this "push" on/off switch much like an air impact. So....I'm brushin' away on a wheel the other day when I bog it down and trip a breaker. So....I set it down, walk into the house and flip the breaker and return to the garage. Big mistake- didn't "push" to off position. Grinder is doing VERY fast laps around the garage until it runs over it's own power cord and saws it in half with the brush! That ALSO tripped the damn breaker!

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36 coupe

03-16-2008 02:13:17

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Re: angle grinders in reply to jose bagge, 03-14-2008 17:32:09

Fellow was using a grinder with a slide switch in a snowplow mfg.Working close to the floor he dropped the grinder, it bounced off the floor a cut a groove in his butt.Boss took all slide switch grinders and busted them up with a hammer.Bot all paddle switch grinders same day.I expect all the cheapo HF grinders have a slide switch.Ive used a B&D 4.5 for many years with a paddle switch.Its due for a new cord but works fine.Best tool for sharpening sickle mower blades ever.Cant understand why any one would buy 5 junk grinders when they could buy one good one for the same money.Penny wise and dollar foolish.

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Bernoulli/OZ

03-15-2008 14:34:58

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Re: angle grinders in reply to jose bagge, 03-14-2008 17:32:09

jose bagge said: (quoted from post at 17:32:09 03/14/08) I have the cup brush on the anceint B&D, which has this "push" on/off switch much like an air impact. So....I'm brushin' away on a wheel the other day when I bog it down and trip a breaker. So....I set it down, walk into the house and flip the breaker and return to the garage. Big mistake- didn't "push" to off position. Grinder is doing VERY fast laps around the garage until it runs over it's own power cord and saws it in half with the brush! That ALSO tripped the damn breaker!

Thirty some odd years ago when I bought my first body grinder, I went to a body shop and asked their advice. It was "Don't buy Craftsman" and "Get one with a dead man (paddle) switch."

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Paul from MI

03-14-2008 05:40:54

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I've had a Makita for about 12 years. Other than one new cord, no problems.
Paul

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Paul from MI

03-14-2008 05:40:52

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I've had a Makita for about 12 years. Other than one new cord, no problems.
Paul

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Paul from MI

03-14-2008 05:40:08

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I've had a Makita for about 12 years. Other than one new cord, no problems.
Paul

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chuck davis

03-14-2008 04:54:45

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I used Metabo brand grinders at work for years and they were great tools. I use DeWalt at home and they have served me well. The DeWalts have different motors in the cheaper models. I think mine have 6.0 or 6.5 amp motors.

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sbin

03-14-2008 04:46:37

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Metabo makes a good tool.I have had great luck with Bosch also.Would recommend a variable speed grinder, being able to dial the speed down is useful sometimes.

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John - OH

03-14-2008 04:23:56

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I would suggest checking out Milwaukee's grinder. They build them tough and durable. The company I work for does alot of masonary work, so ours are fitted with diamond blades. Can't be much tougher on them than that, sucking dust and grit through the motor every time they are run. First Milwaukee we bought is still going strong, 4 years later. Tried many other brands from the super cheap to the expensive, most lasted less than 6 months. Just my 2 cents.

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Bendee

03-14-2008 03:58:59

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

Even the POS should have a warranty.

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mark

03-14-2008 05:42:10

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Re: angle grinders in reply to Bendee, 03-14-2008 03:58:59

Oh they do have a warranty..maybe 90 days. It was a year old, this past Christmas....but hardly used. Very disappointing to see it give up so quickly. It was a gift, so I never had the original receipt anyway.

I was cutting the head off a 5/8 bolt and when I let off the trigger...smoke was rolling out of it. That was it...dead.

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Gary from Muleshoe

03-14-2008 03:48:41

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Re: angle grinders in reply to mark, 03-14-2008 03:09:42

I have a DeWalt that seems to be good. I have a friend who is in the business more than me and he uses Milwakee brand, he said they have lasted longer for him than any other.

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