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Alex-41JDb

03-10-2008 12:19:58




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Started looking for a chain saw as I am getting my own house soon (I"m 20yo). Been looking all over for a saw to finish out my collection of tools. I would love a new stihl to and old homelight I could fix up. But have found this saw at harbor freight for $145. What cha guys think? Also if you guys got an old saw in the barn that is fixable or running holler, I would be interested. Looking around I have found some old saws I dont even think I could pick up, huge old ones. Thanks guys, Alex

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b.t. siegmund

03-15-2008 03:50:43




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
actually, ericib, all the stihl stuff is now made in Virginia Beach, Va. I'm told.



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Bud in WV

03-12-2008 07:45:07




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
After 25 years of hard use my 18" 028 Stihl puked. I replaced it with an 18" Dolmar PS 5100S. Supposed to be equal to the old Stihls - for about $400. Turns 14,500 rpm. Stihl & Husky's run at 12,500 rpms.
I'll let you guys know if it was as good as my old 028 Stihl in 25 or 30 years....



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Walter Buller

03-11-2008 21:25:29




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
I never could find a good deal on a chainsaw on ebay. The prices went too high, plus you have no real idea what you're getting. I'm 58 years old, been using a chainsaw since before I could walk. Back then we had a real heavy Sears Craftsman, all steel, 20" bar, made by Poulan. It's now about 50 years old and will run if you remove the spark plug, pour a little gasoline and oil mixture, 16 to 1, into the combustion chamber and then pull the starter cord. It runs until the gas is all used up then quits. During all those years we never used two-cycle oil in the gas, only non-detergent 30 wt. motor oil. When I finally decided to get another chainsaw, I talked to professional lumberjacks first. They all said either the Husqvarna or the Stihl, preferably the Husky for most. So one day in a pawn shop I saw a 268 Husky with a 24" bar, barely used, for $300. I cranked it, listened to it, checked it out. I think new ones then were selling for about $700. That was about 15 years and no telling how many scores of cords ago. We heat our house with wood just as we have done for most of my life. I love that saw, and recently bought it a mate, a Husky 365, almost the identical saw, also with a 24 " bar, at another pawn shop, for another $300. City fellers think my saws are huge. I suppose they are when compared to the typical throw away varieties like McCullough, Poulan, Sears, Homelite and so forth. All these brands were once excellent saws, but no more. My Huskies are not so big to me because I remember how heavy that old Sears saw was. And they are the perfect size: small enough to hold overhead while trimming branches(be careful), yet large enough to fell and cut up a 48" diameter tree. Keep your chain sharp, your bars chain slots clean, your gas to oil ratio a little richer than called for(about 35-40 to 1 instead of 50 to 1, and your left arm(assuming you're right handed), tensed and almost stiff while using a chainsaw so as to minimize kickback. Wear heavy clothing, eye and ear protection, thick leather boots, and watch for pinch points and remember to clean your saw after each use.

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Alex-41JDb

03-12-2008 09:12:05




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Walter Buller, 03-11-2008 21:25:29  
I agree with I havent seen anything close to a deal on ebay. I guess all that is telling us is that stihl and huskys hold there value well, another reason to buy them. You can get deals at pawn shops if your careful and researched well, as those guys love to write double what the stuff is worth. There are some pawn shops buy my college buy all they have is poulans, not even the poulan pro. Ill keep my eye open.

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Dachshund

03-11-2008 19:12:38




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
Get a Husky. The new Stihls ain't what they used to be. Got a brand new MS290 1 1/2 years ago. Nothing but a PITA ever since. Lots of guys around are not buying Stihl. I have a Husky 55 Rancher, a Stihl MS290, and a Poulan Pro. The Stihl sits and watches the others work. The Poulan is a good lightweight saw.



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RICK165

03-11-2008 16:05:45




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
i dont know how old you are but if you buy a stihl or a husky it just might be the last saw you ever have to buy everyone man has his choice but everything else is basically junk.



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dave2

03-11-2008 08:49:14




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
Those stores will always have them deals. I'd wait until either:

1) you need a saw

or

2) you have a few extra bucks for a saw you can depend on.
The monsters will just make you old before your time.

Dave



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cj3b_jeep

03-11-2008 06:04:36




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
Alex, a new McChulloch will do nothing but make you mad and make you wish you had a better saw. I have 2 Stihl chain saws, one is 18 years old, the other is 5 years old, never had a problem with either of them. It's suprising how inexpensive you can get into one. For just $25-50 more than the HF one, you can get a decent Stihl that'll outlast it by 15 years.



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dave2

03-11-2008 04:10:44




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
Like some of the others said, take an honest look at your needs and buy what you can afford to meet them.

You may find that 18" is overkill for what you plan on doing. I bought a 14" mcullogh once and used it a piece of a season with OK results. I still play with it when I've got plenty of time on my hands to milk it along. It's 10 years old, but has the use that someone that heats w/ and cuts wood regularly would do in a season. Oiler works in the feast or famen mode, clutch sprocket has been replaced, B&C original lasted one load. By the time I finished with markdowns /clearance prices, I paid 15 bucks for it, so good deal.
You can buy a new Stihl MS170 w/ 14" bar that would probably work circles around the one you are talking about for less than 200 bucks and never worry again as long as you maintain it. Just a thought

Dave

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ericlb

03-10-2008 19:40:41




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
i too have used chainsaws for almost 4 decades, now after all that, if you buy anything but a stihl, or a husky, your wasting your money, it will look good on the tool shelf, just dont expect the thing to do much, it wont, in fact if your anywhere near central nm, stop by i"ll GIVE you a $149.00 poulan 16" with about 10 hours on it, its a pos, no power the "safety chain" is so safe it wont cut anything if you crowd it it will just stall ect, i curently have a older 028 stihl that just keeps going and going, its factory stock, and i got a 044, which now has a 24" bar, 3/8 skip tooth chisle chain and a high speed drive sprocket, this setup is not for amatures, it will kill you if your not in the game [ it already got me once, not paying attention] but it will cut thrue a 26 inch log in 4 seconds, and throw fingernail size chips 30 feet, i love it, i also got a old homelite xp that was great, but it got to fix it, i backed over it with the tractor,

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Alex-41JDb

03-11-2008 08:43:08




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to ericlb, 03-10-2008 19:40:41  
Thanks for the opinion, I am looking at a middle of the road saw just to have around, I doubt I will heat with wood but we are looking for houses and one has a wood stove then I will have all the excuse to get me a big ol stihl. I have the money to get one but I am gettting married and buying a house so that money really needs to be kept for the more important stuff. Also like I said before I have ran 26 in stihl magnum for a few days at work (forgot the numbers) I would love a beast if I found a deal.

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T_Bone

03-10-2008 19:17:50




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
Hi Alex,

I think you left out a important need? How your going to use this saw? You need a trim saw for 10 times a year or a saw for cutting 20 cords a year?

I had a Mac 610 20" for 25yrs until my plastic gas tank crumled. It served me well for a $125 saw for upto 5 cords a year.

I replaced it with a Stihl MS-361 24" with the idea I'd keep up with the 5cords a year. Well I'm going solar hot water heating and no more firewood so I really over bought for my needs.

Had I not bought the Stihl, I would have bought the Husky for just about 1/2 cost. I have no idea what the new Mac's are made like as they just again started making them after a 5yr break in production.

T_Bone

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Alex-41JDb

03-11-2008 08:39:41




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to T_Bone, 03-10-2008 19:17:50  
I know I should of said my needs, so I added them in a post below. Thanks for all the opinions.



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Jim in Ma.

03-10-2008 18:31:53




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
You get what you pay for. But I will say- I been using saws for 40 years age gone through a lot of chain. I think I had one brake and all the rest wore out. When a chain breaks or comes off the bar it shoots down and away from you. The only time you get hurt is when they kickback or upwards or do something dumb.



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glennster

03-10-2008 16:23:01




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
i have 2 stihl saws and one husky, 028 wood boss with 20 in bar, over 20 yrs old runs good!!a small stihl with a 14 in bar and the husky has the 16 in. all are good saws. the 028 gets heavy after a while, and i usually use the husky or the lil stihl.



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Gun guru

03-10-2008 15:02:15




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
Dont go cheap on a chainsaw. A chainsaw can kill you if you have a chain fly off because of poor workmanship. Get a smaller Stihl, or Huskvarna saw. I have a Stihl 029 farm boss, it runs great for 10 years now, you should be able to get a trim saw for $250 or so. Dont go cheap!!!!! with import chunk.



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Import saw?

03-10-2008 18:25:23




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Gun guru, 03-10-2008 15:02:15  
Aren't all chain saws imports? Especially the real good ones? Stihl, Husky, Dolmar, Echo, Shindaiwa etc.?



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ericlb

03-11-2008 03:44:01




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Import saw?, 03-10-2008 18:25:23  
yes they are , but theres imports and there are imports, europe builds good stuff china, korea ect build cheap junk,for example take cars, look at a mercedes, then look at a kia, both cars, both imports, obvious difference in quality,mercedes will run forever, kia is monster truck fodder even when new,i tried a kia breifly, didnt take me long to get rid of it, as posted a stihl or husky will give years of good service even if used frequently, ones made in china are usless unless you are just trying to say prune the branches on the 2 trees in the back yard, then if you can get them to run, they will eventually knaw thru a branch

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marlowe

03-11-2008 04:17:13




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to ericlb, 03-11-2008 03:44:01  
we have 3 kia all have been outstanding 82,000 185,000 and 292,000 miles and the one with 292 on just left for Texas they have never seen the dealer from the day the left



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ericlb

03-11-2008 18:30:12




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to marlowe, 03-11-2008 04:17:13  
guess your luck is better than mine i got a 02, it spent more time at the dealer than my house in 30,000 it ate 2 cv shafts, door lock broke internaly on passengers side, ]not warrentied] 1 tail lite refused to stay working,numeroous other small problems, i sold it to a friend cheap so his kid could have a starter car



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Gun Guru

03-11-2008 01:45:52




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Import saw?, 03-10-2008 18:25:23  
I meant a Chinese one, that is of poor quality. Sorry, Stihl and Huskys are imports too but from Europe.



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Sam from WA

03-10-2008 14:44:12




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
See if ya can"t find a Stihl 036 or MS360 with a 24" bar. I use one almost daily, bout the most universal size there is. Not too much power, but not too little. also, the bar is big enough to handle most jobs. If i need a bigger saw, I can get one of our bigger saws from work, but 99% of the time, my MS360 does what I need.



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Ken Crisman

03-10-2008 14:00:46




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
How big a saw are you wanting ? I have several here in my collection , all running great . I used to cut alot of firewood to heat my home & garage . But I no longer heat the house with wood & am disabled so I really don't need or am I able to use all my saws . If interested , send me your email address & we can talk more about what you need & what I have . God bless, Ken



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Alex-41JDb

03-10-2008 15:01:43




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Ken Crisman, 03-10-2008 14:00:46  
Thanks for all the responses thus far. I am looking for a decent size saw, I have ran them all 13 in to 26 in stihls. I would like a 18 to 26 preferably, mainly just want a saw to cut up fallen trees branches and bonfire wood. I would like to get a better one if the price was right. I am the type of guy that likes to own his tools and doesnt have to borrow and a chainsaw is something I think you should have in the barn. Sure my dad has a nice mac and husky and we have 3 nice stihls at work but i want one in the barn to be independent from borrowing stuff. Ken email sent. Thanks guys, Alex

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jhill52

03-10-2008 13:49:29




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
I would stay away from the current Macs. Different saw than Bobs. Since he bought his Mac went broken and was snapped up by a Hong Kong investor. I was at HF today and saws are marked as made in Taiwan.

But a Husky, Stihl or Jonsered and they will last you a good long time.

Jerry



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Tom from Buckeye Lake

03-10-2008 13:41:45




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
Bob is right about responses. I have a 1977 Stihl 031 AV that I bought new. 1977 price was over $ 300. Well it has been a good one. Cut 8-10 cords of firewood for six years with it. Now it is used to fell trees in our 80 acre wood lot in S.C. Only problems were fuel lines and point gap. Search ebay for Stihl and look for a 028 or 031. I have seen decent saws sell there latley for 125-150 bucks. Just my thought, love my Stihl.

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Hal Aluyah

03-10-2008 13:16:25




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
That echo I got at the depot for a little over a hundred has been good.

Except for that skinny chain and the bad aftermarket chain they sell there for it.

It doesn't take much to pinch the bar or tweek the chain on it. I had to go to lowes before it was right again with the correct chain.



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Tim B from MA

03-10-2008 12:53:06




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
I recommend you look on craigslist for a used brand name saw. Husky, Stihl, Dolmar etc,



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Bob - MI

03-10-2008 12:46:56




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Alex-41JDb, 03-10-2008 12:19:58  
You will be amazed on how many responses you get on this one. Lots of chain saw opinions out there. It all tells me that there is no single right answer.

I have the same saw in the 16" version. I do homeowner level work and cut 2~4 trees per year. The Mac is a good saw for my needs and I reach for it first. I have had it for about 10~11 years and have never had a problem.

I also have a 20" Poulan Pro that I reserve for bigger stuff. If I had it to do over again I would have spent some more and gotten a heavier duty Husky but in the end the Poulan serves my needs.

At the price point you are at here this saw is probably typical of what you will get most places.

Shop around a bit. Sam's Club sells an 18" Poulan Pro for about the same money.

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Bob Huntress

03-10-2008 15:36:11




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 Re: Chain saw opinions? Please Help! in reply to Bob - MI, 03-10-2008 12:46:56  
I have a Polan Pro 18". I don't like the chain adjustment, but other than that, the saw is great. It isn't some unrealably cheap, yet it is cost effective.



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