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Oldoaky-2

03-01-2008 09:00:42




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I have looked at some mig welders and the only thing I can find wrong with them is that the welding cable is to short. How far can the wire be pushed in a weld cable? The lead on my stick welder is 25 feet long and ground wire 20 feet. Sure wish that the cable on a wire welder could be longer. I suppose the 220 cord could get it closer to the work, but if I am working on top of the combine I think a 12 foot wire cable will be to short. I would like some comments on this from some of you long time weldors.

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BFO

03-02-2008 13:37:49




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
I have 15' on my Lincoln LN25, and LN7GMA wire feeders and never have a problem.



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Bud n

03-02-2008 05:57:42




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
I have a miller with an external feed. I mounted the feeder on a boom (kind of like a cherry picker). I can reach the top of the combine very easy.



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trucker40

03-01-2008 20:31:32




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
10 TO 12 feet.



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NcNE

03-01-2008 17:56:59




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
Depending on what kind of welder you have, a remote wire feeder such as a Miller Suitcase or the swing arcmight be an option. If not the longer extension cord or possibly one of the smaller welders you could tote up there>



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Stan in Oly, WA

03-01-2008 16:23:07




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
Hi oldoaky-2,

What I would do is buy a good quality regular MIG welder and keep using the stick welder for welding on top of the combine if I couldn't figure out some way to get the MIG welder closer to the work. I can live with it not being a perfect world. Of course, if I had enough money to satisfy every whim, maybe I wouldn't settle for anything less than perfection. I'll probably never know.

All the best, Stan

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Puddles

03-01-2008 13:52:29




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
One thing to remember, if your wire feeder doesn�t have a set of 4-drive rolls, any gun longer than 10 to 12 feet, and running wire .030 or smaller can give you trouble in the overhead position, unless the feeder is above the item being welded. Two drive roll systems don�t like to push small wire uphill very far. As already mentioned spool gun is the best way to get 25 to 30-feet away from the power source, or look into a push pull gun. Either way dust off your wallet! :o)

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Bill in IL

03-01-2008 13:20:53




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
They do make 20 foot mig guns if you wish but since they are sort of odd you will pay for them dearly.

Like you said too not sure how well the wire will push that far either.



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JMS/.MN

03-01-2008 13:06:31




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
I replaced the power cable on my Miller many years ago- about 25 feet long now. For high jobs, I load the welder into the skidloader bucket, chain it to the bucket hooks, and go. Cable lets me reach any part of a 48x48 shop with one plug by the 24 foot main door, and another by the tool room.



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Kemper

03-01-2008 11:11:01




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
My mig welder has a detachable feeder unit that has 25 foot of cord between it and the welder, nice when working on combines or whatever.



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Bob

03-01-2008 10:07:49




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
Get an extension cord, and lift the welder up nearer to the work location on the combine with a loader as needed.

Works GOOD 'til the helper hits the wrong lever, and dumps the welder out of the bucket. (DON'T ask me how I know this!)



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RobMD

03-01-2008 09:41:05




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 Just make an extension cord! in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
I made an extension cord for the welder for 30 bucks. Easiest thing you can do. Just take a receptacle box, wire it to some 10 gauge wire, and put a plug end on the other end.



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jokers

03-01-2008 09:19:38




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
Tweeco also makes some longer gun leads, that might solve your problem for less money than a spool gun or it`s not going to be a structural repair on the combine, how about one of the portable 110v units? Put it right up on the machine with you.



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Sam from WA

03-01-2008 09:07:06




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 Re: Mig welder question in reply to Oldoaky-2, 03-01-2008 09:00:42  
I run a spoolgun with a 2lb roll of welding wire on the gun. the leads that go to the power source (welder) are gun power(to operate feed rolls), weld power(to create the arc) and the inert gas(i use argon/co2 mix). this way the leads can be much longer as the only thing that is being transferred on the lines is the electricity and shield gas. only downside to using the spoolgun is they are spendy, depending on what you get. the spoolgun i use is a Miller 30A on a newer Millermatic 251. the gun itself i believe is somewhere around $1400.

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