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db in mi

02-29-2008 19:36:46




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I am getting tired of paying to have my chain saw chain sharpened all the time and figured I could buy a sharpener and eventually it would pay for itself. Does anyone know of a good sharpener or where I might begin to look for one. Any info will be greatfully appreciated. Dennis.




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Leland

03-05-2008 21:12:43




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
harbor frieght has one on sale now for 28 bucks ,it's good enough for the home owner



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Tim B from MA

03-03-2008 09:18:45




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
For $25 at any decent hardware store you can get an Oregon guide that clamps to the bar, and holds the file in a cradle that slides on the guide.

It adjusts in all angles.

I use my first one for about 23 years (including about 4 years of cutting wood for a "living") it finally broke and I bought a new one at Lowes.

The saw needs to be mounted in a vise (which is really essential for any hand sharpening) but it works great.

Also make sure you get a narrow flat file for filing down the rakes (limits depth of cut) occassional - as suggested, after every 8-10 sharpening should be often enought.

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JTinNJ

03-03-2008 07:44:52




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
This outfit has everything you would ever want in the forestry line.If they don't have it,you don't need it.
www.baileysonline.com



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KEH

03-01-2008 16:08:20




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  

Like Scooter said, I use a dremel type tool and a grinding rock. Touch the drag links every other time to keep them low.

KEH



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guido

03-01-2008 16:07:49




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
Hello db in mi.
Sharpening the chain cutter teeth is only half the job.
The other half is to check the depth of the cutting teeth for the proper depth, and when you are checking for the depth make sure that you do it in the same spot of the bar.
Guido.



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Kemper

03-01-2008 11:22:46




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
I always thought i was good with a file too until i bought an electric grinder from www.northerntool.com, wow what a difference,i can cut 3 or 4 loads of wood in between sharpenings,now instead of sharpening in the timber after every load,i just swap chains and sharpen after i get home,only takes a couple minutes.



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Bret4207

03-01-2008 10:46:06




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
Husky and I think Stihl sell a hand filing jig. It's a small blue roller guide. Comes in a set with a file and handle. I recall when these guide first came out in the 80's. You just keep the file square to the sides and take an even number of strokes on each tooth. The biggest thing it does is keep your file high enough in the tooth to cut right. You can add a bit of hook with it too.



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old timer in ohio

03-01-2008 07:59:39




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
Hey there;
If you google up www.northerntool.com
you MIGHT find what you are looking for. Bob
God Bless



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PJH

03-01-2008 07:14:40




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
I use a file also. Make sure you get the size to match your chain.

Another handy cheap tool that I like is a little vise that you take to the woods with you. It has a couple of spikes on the bottom, and you tap it into a stump or log, and then you clamp the saw bar in it to hold it steady while you touch it up with a file. It's made by Oregon, and only cost about 10 bucks - but I've had it 30 years so it might be more now. . . The big boys probably don't use one, but it helps me do a better job.

PJ

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Sam#3

03-01-2008 07:12:42




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
Get a file and a guide. Three strokes with the file and go to the next cutter. You will do a better job and the chains will last for years. Of course if you try to cut nails, wire and dead hedge your strokes may vary. I don"t know if they"re still around but Dad"s David Bradley came with a ramp guide also.



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JT

03-01-2008 07:02:29




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
It depends on what you want. As every one else said, you can, with patience sharpen a chain as fast with a file and a guide plate as you can with a sharpener and get is sharper. Also you will increase the chain life because you you do not get it as hot with a file. The only thing you will need to do when sharpening by hand is to make sure you sharpen it even on both sides, other wise it will not cut straight.
Now, you can get a cheap chain sharpener at harbor freight, it is a cheap sharpener, but for most people it will do what you want, but again, you need to do it properly, other wise you can sharpen it crooked and it will cut crooked and you can burn the chain, take off 10% of your chain every time you sharpen it. These two things will shorten your chain life.
If you go to www.oregonchian.com, there is some info on that also.
Jim

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jdemaris

03-01-2008 07:17:31




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to JT, 03-01-2008 07:02:29  
Harbor Freight, on occasion, also sells the much-beter Oregon sharpener. The cheap one they sell is just about worthless.

A good sharpener has all the angle and pitch adjustments, whereas the cheaper ones do not. For many chains, especially full chisel - those extra adjustments are necessary.

Somebody who is skilled at both hand sharpening and machine sharpening can do a better and faster job with the machine. Many of our logger customers sharpen by hand in the woods, but put the chains on the machine every once in awhile to get the angles perfect again.

For chains that are just dulled a bit, hand sharpening is fine. But for chains - especially full chisel - that hit fence-wire, sap spiles, pebbles, etc. - a machine does a much better job.

Properly machine-sharpened chains can make a saw last a lot longer than one used with not-so-sharp chains getting lugged.

Conditions must vary - but in my area, cutting mostly huge hard maples, ash, and red oaks, chains often hit bits of fence wire, old sap spiles, small pebbles, etc. and often, hand-sharpening is not feasable all the time.

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RossIL

03-01-2008 08:12:09




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to jdemaris, 03-01-2008 07:17:31  
I file mine myself and every fourth time or so I take it to my local saw guy and let him true it up for me. He does a great job and it helps keep him in business when I need something fixed ASAP.
Ross



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jose bagge

03-01-2008 05:07:30




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
I'm with the file guys...I run a file over mine every second tank of gas, and it stays super sharp. Hint: see those flat "plates" sticking up on the chain that run parrallel to the bar? you want to knock a little off the top of that about every 8-10 'filings". that controls the depth of the "bite" of your cut- the lower the plate, the bigger the chip.



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pair-a-dice farms

03-01-2008 02:10:38




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
I use a dollar file and can get them as sharp as they were when new. All it takes is a little patience, once you get the hang of it it is quicker and your chain will last longer than if you use a power sharpener.



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RobMD

02-29-2008 21:21:36




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
I use a good 'ol file, my eyes, and patience. I get those chains dam sharp, and I don't need a fancy arse tool to do it.



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scooter01922

02-29-2008 21:02:01




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
I just use the handy little grinding stone that fits in my dremel. Works like a charm. Only a few $$ at just about any hardware store.



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RayP(MI)

03-01-2008 17:52:34




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to scooter01922, 02-29-2008 21:02:01  
Like Scooter said. I've done all the file things, have a very complex guide tool - takes too long, doesn't do all that great a job. Files go dull real quick. Dremmel tool with a round grind tool does the job fast. I clamp the saw in a bench vice, allows me to sharpen several teeth, and then move chain to get several more. I do this freehand. You'll soon learn the proper angle to hold Dremmel tool.

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jack12345

02-29-2008 20:29:29




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
I have a Oregon hand held 12 volt grinder that works very well.Before that I used a file.. this is much faster.



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Sam from WA

02-29-2008 20:09:09




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
what about a guide and a file? thats how i do all of our saw chains, works great and requires no power other than from your arm and hand.



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Marlowe

02-29-2008 20:01:38




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to db in mi, 02-29-2008 19:36:46  
harbor tools 39.95 on sale had mine for 5 or 6 years works great



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Chuck (CA)

02-29-2008 20:12:38




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to Marlowe, 02-29-2008 20:01:38  
Yup.
There's a coupon out there right now in some areas for 28 bucks @ Harbor Freight.
Mine's only 3 years old but still on the original wheel. Still does the job.

Chuck



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ric1

03-01-2008 03:19:29




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 Re: chain saw sharpener in reply to Chuck (CA), 02-29-2008 20:12:38  
i bought one 4 yrs ago from harbor freight for $80.00 its just like the ones they have in the saw shops use. still on the same wheel cant say how many chains ive sharpened a bunch.



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