Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Tool Talk Discussion Forum

for you welder guru's

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
glennster

02-24-2008 12:38:12




Report to Moderator

picked up this hansen 22v welder, but no manual. havent been able to find one either. below the heat and wire speed are 3 knobs, a slide switch and a toggle for co2 and argon. i'm runng 035 solid wire for mild steel, 75/25 gas. what are these knobs and switches for, what about settings, and with 75/25, toggle to argon or co2? heres some pics.
third party image
third party image

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
jim wise

02-25-2008 20:28:22




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
the setting with the line is stitch the one with the dot is spot the lower is the timer for the weld time power is set up above and so is the wire speed. spot is for a pre puched hole stich is for filling or to keep warping to a minimum



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
TomTex

02-25-2008 05:22:19




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
Try this.
PO Box 220 Stn Main
Pickering ON, L1V 2R4

Phone: 905-839-7481
Fax: 905-839-3686

Henning Hansen
Approximately 20 employees work at this location Sales: $1 - $5 Million

Business Activity
Manufacturer
Exporter


Products and Services
Centre gauges, articulated support arm/overhead work stations, mig welding arm incorporating fume and dust extraction, electrical and air outlets.
Mfrs-Motor Vehicle Parts and Accessories

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
glennster

02-25-2008 09:09:01




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to TomTex, 02-25-2008 05:22:19  
thanks, i'll give em a call and see if they still have a manual available for it.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
TomTex

02-25-2008 05:12:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
TBone and others, just thought of something else. maybe one of the switches is "burn back control" like the old Lincoln Idealarc machines had. Tom



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
36 coupe

02-25-2008 03:41:15




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
You have the mfg address.They should be able to supply a manual.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Stan in Oly, WA

02-24-2008 23:08:40




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
Hi glennster,

I'm inclined to agree with TomTex that the third and fourth knobs down are for stitch welding. Possibly they work together so that the third knob down controls the amount of time on and the fourth controls the amount of time off.

I have a video from a company named HTP America that sells welders and related products which seem to be focused on the auto shop, custom car, and car racing industries. Their more expensive MIG welders have multiple knobs that can be set to produce amazing variations of stitch welding and related procedures by going through insanely complicated sequences of settings. If the knobs on your welder can be adjusted to produce results like the HTP welders supposedly can, I'd rate it unlikely that you'll even be able to scratch the surface of its capabilities without getting your hands on some instructions.

All the best, Stan

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
T_Bone

02-25-2008 01:09:24




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 02-24-2008 23:08:40  
Hi Stan,

Then what does the 5th dial(t) do?

From what your thinking then would dial #5 set the time on of the trigger(wire) event?

I like your explantion of dials #3 and #4 but then we slide the mode switch to dial#5 which is independant of dials #3 & #4. That confuses me.

Or is this just a fit up machine, tacking only? Would make sense?

OR setting dial#3 and dial#4 for the on/off times of the spot welding mode and then slide the switch to Dial#5 to adjust the continous welding mode.

Then look again at the center slide switch pictoral on dial #4. Doesn't that symbol indicate a continous mode?

I bet if we all could be there to play with the machine, it'd hit us between the eyes what each dial is for really quick.

T_Bone

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
T_Bone

02-25-2008 01:33:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to T_Bone, 02-25-2008 01:09:24  
One more combination I just thought of.

Dial#3 sets the on time, Dial#5 set the off time and is set for the spot weld mode thus the symbol of a dot.

Dial#4 is the weld mode and is a inductance control.

T_Bone



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
TomTex

02-24-2008 22:15:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
Not familare with that brand, but the one 3 position switch looks to be up for plain ole seam welding, middle for stitch welding, and down for spot welding.
Very Top 1-7 switch is amps/volts power. Second 1-7 switch shows that it is for wire feed speed.
3rd 1-7 switch is stitch welding only.
4th 1-7 switch is also stitch welding.
5ht or bottom 1-7 switch looks like adjustment for spot welding.
Toggle switch looks like one way for CO2 only, and other way for CO2/Argon mix.
Tom

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
T_Bone

02-25-2008 00:13:46




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to TomTex, 02-24-2008 22:15:00  
Hi Tom,

I would agree that the slide switch appears to be a mode switch.

According to the slide switch pictoral;
position 1) you can have only top dial control

position 2) you have both 1st and 2nd dial control. I would say you set dial#1 then slide the switch to the middle then set dial#2 for a combinded output effect.

Position 3) you have 3rd dial control only. I'm having a problem with this dial. I've thought of several ideas but they all include a external power head of some sort and there's no place to add in a external power lead?

Linde used simular symbols for inductance and slope control on some there wire machines just like dial #1 and dial #2 has.

3rd dial control for spot welding, then there's no main lead connection point for a spot weld head. So where would you hook this spot weld head up? Unless we can't see more control output options toward the bottom of the case?

If the machine contains two gas solenoid valves then one would be Co2 choice and the other AR choice. I can see this as then you only need to change the wire type and flip the switch for the correct gas.

More pictures Glenn of the back and sides? Maybe that will clear up some confusion and besure to open compartment doors if you will.

T_Bone

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
glennster

02-25-2008 09:14:16




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to T_Bone, 02-25-2008 00:13:46  
i'll get some more photos and post em. these switches really are confusing. my snap on welder has a toggle for spot, stitch and continious. my little miller just has wire speed and voltage adjustment. and the old millermatic 250 i had was just about the same except for high-low range adjustment. i'm gonna find the serial number and fax up to the mfr and see if the manual is still available. i had our supplier check and he couldnt come up with anything.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Slowpoke

02-24-2008 15:02:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
Try here:



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
glennster

02-24-2008 15:25:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to Slowpoke, 02-24-2008 15:02:32  
i tried the link, it isnt working.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
trucker40

02-24-2008 13:28:55




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
I am thinking to weld steel you want the toggle on CO2.It could be those extra knobs are for a TIG attachment,or for stitch weld.Just guessing.First time I saw one like that.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Jerry Wallen

02-24-2008 13:16:09




Report to Moderator
 Re: for you welder guru's in reply to glennster, 02-24-2008 12:38:12  
from what I read Hansen mig welders are used a lot in body shops--the controls you are asking about may be for stitch weld timing which is a favored method of joining body panels--this is just a guess



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy