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Bob Farrell

02-24-2008 12:04:14




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I need three. One for the shop. One for the kitchen. One for the pickup. What kinds do I need for each application? What sizes do I need for each? What are good brand names? Where do I buy them? What should they cost?

Tried to research. They talk over my head assuming I know more than I do. Help please. Thanks. bob farrell




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Bob Farrell

02-26-2008 04:40:21




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
Thanks to all that provided information. I guess what I need are 3 or 4 ABC for the shop, one for each vehicle, and a couple for the house.

Now to try to find some I can afford. I'm about seven miles from the in-town fire department (no rural) and I would like to be able to contain a fire while they have time to respond. Thanks again to all - BTW sorry for the mispell of extinguisers in the original post. Bob Farrell

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oldfarmtractor

02-25-2008 14:01:11




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
A good ABC is your best bet for most fires. A CO2 will not do a decent job puttin out a class A fire. There is too much residual heat. But they do a great job with B & C.

But a large dry chem will take care of most everything though you get a mess.

32 years of Fire Fighting Service has taught me a couple things.



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ken 46

02-24-2008 19:39:51




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
Halotron for electrical stuff - won't damage swiches computers etc. Halon is outlawed but they sell a variation like halotron (sp) or halon III. The last ones I bought for the feedmills here were about 400.00 though !!!!



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IH2444

02-24-2008 19:05:16




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
I have 3 ABC dry chem extinguishers in the house and about 5 in my shop and sheds. I also have one in each vehicle.

A question. I have been seeing little areosol can looking types of extinguishers in the stores ? what are they and are they any good ? One would fit nicely in a glove compartment.



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36 coupe

02-25-2008 03:53:23




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to IH2444, 02-24-2008 19:05:16  
Dont depend on the little aerosol type too much.I alway keep one around when welding.Puts out grass fires and burning under coating o k.I have a big co2 and powder types in the house and barn.Its hard to get people to buy extinguishers, they dont think they need them.



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Charles (in GA)

02-24-2008 17:59:32




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
For commercial kitchens, a Class K extinguisher is required. These are the only ones really effective on grease fires. Might take a hint from the pros on this for your kitchen. Here is a link to the one Grainger sells. They are not cheap.

Link

I have two ten pound dry chemical ones in my shop, Due to the size of the building, I plan on adding a third. I also have vertical fire extinguisher signs (nice fiberglass ones) on the post above each one so you can see them from anywhere in the building. Lots of different signs available, I just picked the one narrow enough to fit the posts in my metal building.

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Charles

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buickanddeere

02-24-2008 16:36:21




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
For the shop and vehicle. A pressurized water with AFFF mixed with the water. Antifreeze too if the temps drop below freezing.
CO2 and a pressurized water with AFFF for kitchen.



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Stan in Oly, WA

02-24-2008 16:12:26




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
Hi Bob,

I worked for a fire protection equipment company in Honolulu for a short time after I got out of the Army. There isn't much to know about fire extinguishers. Kidde is a good brand. Extinguishers are rated A, B and C for the classes of fires they can deal with. A is solid combustibles, B is liquid combustibles, and C is electrical. The dry chemical powder in extinguishers is basically bicarbonate of soda with a non-caking agent. It is great for B and C fires, less good for A fires because it lacks the quenching capability or water (as in the old soda/acid extinguishers you turned upside down, then squirted on the fire.) Smaller dry chemical extinguishers are often rated only BC because they lack the volume of powder to smother a fire fed by burning solids. Larger dry chemical extinguishers got an ABC rating when they had more than a certain weight of powder---5 or 10 pounds, but I don't remember.

Dry chemical extinguishers are effective but very messy. CO2 extinguishers are totally clean but won't put out a fire as reliably. Any fire fed by combustible liquids has a tendency to keep reigniting around the edges of the immediate CO2 plume unless it (the fire) is very small. I don't think CO2 is rated for solid combustibles at all because it lacks quenching capability and its smothering capability is very brief.

Aside from complying with local fire department or insurance company regulations requiring certification of inspection, there is little need to pay to have dry chemical extinguishers serviced. Professional servicing consists of two easy procedures. If the extinguisher has a pop-out stem instead of a gauge, push it in. If it pops back out the unit is still charged. If it has a gauge and the needle is still in the okay zone, flick the gauge hard with your fingernail. If the needle quivers it's good. Then turn the extinguisher upside down and smack the bottom hard a couple of times with a rubber mallet or something similar. This will uncake the powder if it's caked, and you're good to go for another year.

The 5 to 20 lb dry chemical extinguishers I sold and serviced could be refilled and recharged, but it wasn't cost effective (35 years ago) to hydro-test them, and I never saw it done.

Guys who had been in the Navy always claimed to have used the CO2 extinguishers on their ships to cool beer. We got in lots of CO2 extinguishers which had to be discharged prior to hydrotesting, and we drank lots of beer in that shop. In my experience, CO2 worked much better to make a good beer cooling story than it did to cool beer.

All the best, Stan

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Slowpoke

02-24-2008 14:47:11




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
Do not get any with plastic heads. At least around this area they won't be serviced. Metal only. Every year or two have 'em serviced, about $10. Then you can be pretty sure they will work when needed. They need to be hydro tested at 12 years then they're good for another 12 and scrapped. Look for used ones at yard sales, etc. Check the manuf. date on the label. For your vehicles ask some truckers what they carry by law.

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bellyacre

02-24-2008 14:39:15




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
I go to my insurance agent, best price , right one for the job, They would buy a fire extinguisher, than a new house or shop



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Crem

02-24-2008 19:00:57




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to bellyacre, 02-24-2008 14:39:15  
My insurance company also sells extinguishers at a great rate. They also like to see them on our tractors.



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s.crum

02-24-2008 13:27:36




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
Last I checked, Halon has been outlawed under CFC rules. A good dry chemical is best for stuff that can easily be cleaned up afterward and CO2 for the more sensitive stuff that's tough to clean. CO2 would be my choice in the kitchen and dry chemical in the truck and shop.



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jose bagge

02-24-2008 12:14:26




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
Get Halon for the kitchen and for the truck...get several large chemical ones for the shop, the more the better.

Halon won't make a big ol' mess for grease fire, etc in the kitchen, and won't shoot particulates into the intake if you just have a carb fire, etc on the truck. Operating on the theory that whatever happens in the shop will "go big", get the big ol' chemical ones to cover quickly and profusely. A few welding blankets in the shop will help put out less unruly flames (underhood stuff like carb fire, etc).
Works for me

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jose bagge

02-24-2008 12:14:17




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 Re: Fire extenguisers in reply to Bob Farrell, 02-24-2008 12:04:14  
Get Halon for the kitchen and for the truck...get several large chemical ones for the shop, the more the better.

Halon won't make a big ol' mess for grease fire, etc in the kitchen, and won't shoot particulates into the intake if you just have a carb fire, etc on the truck. Operating on the theory that whatever happens in the shop will "go big", get the big ol' chemical ones to cover quickly and profusely. A few welding blankets in the shop will help put out less unruly flames (underhood stuff like carb fire, etc).
Works for me

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