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Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing

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Pollack Pete

02-24-2008 03:51:58




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Anyone else have this problem??? I'm constantly putting air in the tires of everyvehicle I have that has aluminun rims.The tires are always low on air.I've taken the tires off the rims,sanded the corrosion off the rims,put them back on,and a month later,the tires are soft again.I know some sort of bead sealer used to be available.I went to the local Advance Auto store and asked for some.The kid looked at me like I was from Venus.Any ideas??? Was thinking of taking the tires off again,beadblasting the sealing area,and putting on two coats of POR-15 paint.

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Matt in the Thumb

02-25-2008 13:30:00




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
Try a parts store like a Napa's or Carquest. May be able to find it there. I know it's around $20 for a quart. One of the brands is Camel. You might also want to try a local tire place. They may be willing to sell you a can for what they pay for it.



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Unruh

02-25-2008 08:12:29




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
Newer technology is putting nitrogen gas into tires because the molecules are larger than air.



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Mike M

02-25-2008 04:45:41




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
GM had a bulletin out on this problem. I think the gest of it was they had some kinda silicone sealer they wanted you to smear on the bead area after you broke the tire down.



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1936

02-24-2008 16:16:19




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
Was told just week to try anti freeze solution.



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RayP(MI)

02-24-2008 10:26:42




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
Had more than my share of leakers too. Fortunately I buy road hazard form my local tire dealer. $5 to $7 per tire, and he takes care of all leaks, nails, blowouts, etc. I've made money on that, over the years. Anyway, when he does repair leakers, he takes tires off, wire wheels (brushes) the rims and remounts, using liberal amounts of mounting soap. If you can get Murphy's Oil Soap, in a greaselike form, you'd be using about what he uses.

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rockyhawaii

02-24-2008 10:25:19




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
I have some aluminum ATV wheels that kept going flat. In a pinch for time, I grabbed a tube of bathroom sink-sealer and spread a bead around the rim, That was about a year ago and the tires are still holding air. Can't hurt anything to try, although I can't say how it would work in a cold climate.



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ldj

02-24-2008 06:44:12




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
I never had aluminum wheels. On the steel that I have a problem with bead sealing I smear some thick wheel bearing grease on the bead. Worked every time for me.



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jdemaris

02-24-2008 06:18:44




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
I have that trouble on all rims, steel or aluminum here in the Northeast. I always use a tire-bead lubricant/sealer - but . . . you have to do it with the tire-valve hole also. Most of the problematic leakers I had to fix twice were leaking that the tire-valve where it's OD seals against the rim.



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Pollack Pete

02-24-2008 07:43:40




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to jdemaris, 02-24-2008 06:18:44  
Yup..... .I'm in the northeast too.Upstate New York to be exact.Good ole road salt.



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jdemaris

02-24-2008 07:52:38




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 07:43:40  
I've got property in three New York counties, Otsego, Hamilton, and Jefferson. The area where my land is in Jefferson, on the Tug Hill Plateau, besides the winter salt, they salt most of the dirt roads all summer long. I've gotten stuck behind a salt-water spreader truck many times.



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Pollack Pete

02-24-2008 08:30:43




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to jdemaris, 02-24-2008 07:52:38  
I live 30 miles north of Albany in Saratoga County.I own a Summer home just south of Old Forge in Onieda County.Both municipalities are VERY generous with ice melting products.My green F-150 looks white all Winter.



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mwkellner

02-25-2008 09:19:24




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 08:30:43  
That's funny, my F-150 is white and looks gray all year long. Ha



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jdemaris

02-24-2008 08:55:38




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 08:30:43  
Well - if you have any rigs you try to keep out of salt - don't think you're safe in the summer. Many New York areas use salt to keep dust down on dirt roads. I've got a winter fleet of cars and trucks - and a separate summer fleet. I basically just drive crap in the winter - and try to save my good stuff for salt-free summer roads - but that's not always easy to do. Some of the Old Forge areas are changing over to sand in the winter - and I wish they'd all do it. My grandmother worked in Old Forge when she was a teenager at one of the number-lake camps - and much travel there was by horse and steam-boat. Boy have things changed.

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Vern-MI

02-24-2008 05:22:26




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
I did a search for rim bead sealer and found Gemplers had some stuff listed below. It would be nice to find some stuff within 200 miles of home.

When I was faced with the problem on some Couger wheels I grabbed a tube of Loctite teflon pipe dope and applied it to the seal area after breaking the bead on that side. It worked just fine and also allowed removal of the tire for later repairs and replacement. The leaks could only be detected after the tire was laid on it's side and soapy water placed on the tire to rim area. The leaks were in the form of very small bubbles around the entire rim to bead.

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MSM

02-24-2008 05:19:57




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
The only permanent way to cure the leaks is to break them down and have them bead blasted inside and out and re-clearcoated. Most of the factory wheels are pourous and will leak air if the clear is starting to come off inside. Your only other recourse would be to load them up with sealer.



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s.crum

02-24-2008 05:54:57




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to MSM, 02-24-2008 05:19:57  
I have to agree with MSM. I had to do this with both sets of the alloy wheels on 2 old Cadillacs I own. The beads are not usually the problem. Minute sandholes from the casting process often are. The only good way to correct this is like stated, glass bead the inside of the wheels and re-clear coat them. Don't even try to put a tube in a tubeless tire.



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jose bagge

02-24-2008 05:16:03




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 Re: Aluminum Rim Bead Sealing in reply to Pollack Pete, 02-24-2008 03:51:58  
Meyers tire supply has the bead sealer in quart cans....but I just put a tube of SLIME in and I'm usually good to go....



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