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GREGinMO

02-21-2008 18:38:54




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In a previous post, you said you would hire 30 entry level mechanics @ 65k/yr? Please expand on this.




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jim wise

02-22-2008 22:26:59




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 Re: To jose bagge in reply to GREGinMO, 02-21-2008 18:38:54  
TRY AUTOBODY its worse or uhpolstery forget it



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Kentb of SWMO

02-22-2008 10:50:45




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 Re: To jose bagge in reply to GREGinMO, 02-21-2008 18:38:54  
Greg, I would like to know where you are in MO. The last contact I had with any auto Tech was last summer at a Ford dealership. It WAS NOT good. The time was right when Fescue season was starting. I was needing to work on my combind. This was on a Saturday. My Father-in-Law deove his older, 1983 Ford, to town. The car quit him in front of the Sherrifs office. I went down to see if I could get it going. I was away from MY shop. I could find little. I got it to run for about 15 sec. after taking the ignition box to have it check out. I suspected a heat problem. I had the car towed to the local Ford dealer. Monday I called the dealer to see if they had it fixed. The said they could not find anything wrong with it. I told them it had a heat problem. They said they had drove it about a mile and could find nothing. Besides, they DID NOT have a computor to hook-up to the car. I told them they were a Ford dealership, they should be able to work on a Model A if needed. They said the only charge was the tow bill. I got mad, went and got the car with the wife the truck and a chain. After I drove the car SIX miles Ineeded the chain. I towed it home. The next day I started the car and parked it in the garage and let it run untill it quit. It took me about 30 minutes with a can of FREEZE spray to find the BAD crank position sensor. I called the dealer, told the service manager I FOUND THE PROBLEM WITHOUT a computer. I also told him I thought ALL of his TECHS NEED TO HOOK A COMPUTOR UP TO THE VEHICAL TO TELL WHICH WAY TO TURN A CAPSCREW TO LOSSEN IT. I have NO use for 99.99999% of most automotive repair business. If I had a place I would have my own aligment rack.

Kent

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jose bagge

02-22-2008 04:03:32




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 Re: To jose bagge in reply to GREGinMO, 02-21-2008 18:38:54  
I run a chain of auto repair facilities that has a huge shortage of technicians- in fact, it is the limiting factor on our business. In this area, there just are not enough qualified techs to go 'round- and as fast as I can train them up, they are hired away by dealerships.
High schools in this area have shifted away from Automotive Vo-tech and into computers- so they produce zippy (this is why I resigned from the school board). Many high schools do not even have automotive facilities any longer.
I have 35 shops, and the average earnings of my first year mechanics is $60-70k...I would put one more tech into every shop if only they were available. This is not"driveability" or underhood- we are talking chassis, brake and suspension/alignment work. My underhood techs make a lot more!

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GREGinMO

02-22-2008 19:11:26




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 Re: To jose bagge in reply to jose bagge, 02-22-2008 04:03:32  
Thanks for the reply jose bagge. (love that handle!) The money figure caught my eye...hard to make that kind of money as a tech in my neck of the woods, and I suspect geography comes in to play here. Its sad to think of high schools not having auto shop and industrial arts...I practically lived in that wing of the building during my last years of high school. And Kent, I am 100 miles SW of St. Louis in southern Gasconade Co. Sorry to hear you found a ford dealer that could'nt pull codes and data from an older ford LOL...guess you wont be going back there!

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jose bagge

02-23-2008 05:08:29




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 Re: To jose bagge in reply to GREGinMO, 02-22-2008 19:11:26  
$98 retail flat rate out here...techs making $25-35 flat rate hour entry level...how does that compare out your way?

unfortunately- median house price out here is now $422,000: and that's an hour out from the stores.

BUT...if ya wanna move, give me a holla!



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GREGinMO

02-24-2008 10:08:26




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 Re: To jose bagge in reply to jose bagge, 02-23-2008 05:08:29  
I think most shops here are in the $50-60/hr range...have heard the dealers in St. Louis are over $100/hr now. Not really sure what those techs are making, as I got sick of a long commute, and just work locally on class 8 trucks and excavating equipment.



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MarkB_MI

02-22-2008 06:04:04




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 Re: To jose bagge in reply to jose bagge, 02-22-2008 04:03:32  
Jose, that's a sad state of affairs. The sad part of it is that most of the "computer" courses in the public schools don't really give a kid an education that he can make a career out of.



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