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Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations?

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Dan Bear Kelley

02-03-2008 12:45:34

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Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent steel-cutting band saw? I need something with a work table for cutting custom metal parts for tractors and hot rods. I need to notch, make V cut outs, cut curves... So, I'm not just looking to cut-off chunks of metal squarely.

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Chris(WA)

02-09-2008 16:05:10

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to JoeK(WI), 02-03-2008 12:45:34

Dan Bear Kelley said: (quoted from post at 13:45:34 02/03/08) Does anyone have a recommendation for a decent steel-cutting band saw? I need something with a work table for cutting custom metal parts for tractors and hot rods. I need to notch, make V cut outs, cut curves... So, I'm not just looking to cut-off chunks of metal squarely.

Check out Grizzly Tools. I bought a metal band saw that swivels so it can Mitre cut. Added a small table. I really like it for the money.

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cwtech

02-03-2008 21:33:37

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

I realize you asked about a bandsaw, but have you considered a plasma cutter instead?

Cut quality is very good after a little practice, and it will definitely cut faster than a bandsaw.

Repetitive parts are easily cut by making a template and following it with the plasma nozzle.

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Dan Bear Kelley

02-09-2008 08:50:45

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Plasma Cutters in reply to cwtech, 02-03-2008 21:33:37

I hesitate to go with a plasma cutter. I'm not doing production parts, so speed is not essential. Also, I'm a hobbyist, so something that takes a lot of practice and skill is not quite my speed. Thank you for the thought, though.

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T_Bone

02-03-2008 20:51:56

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

Hi Dan,

You didn't spec the metal thickness so were guessing here as to the best tool to use.

For cutting SM a bandsaw is a poor choice as it leaves a jagged edge on the SM no matter how careful you are.

For irregular cutting upto 18ga SM you need to use a beverly shear. It cuts metal like sissors do on cloth. There table mounted with a 30" long handle for leverage. With practice, you have a extremely smooth finish cut.

Uni-shears are the electric version of the same cutter but for cutting tighter radius's a Beverley shear works alot better.

They make a pipe notcher for joining pipe.

For "V" notching then a Beverely shear for light gauge and a abrasive cut off wheel for thick steel.

A Makita #9504, 5", 10,000rpm, side grinder, about $125, with a 3/32"x6"x 5/8"arbor cut off wheel works well. Full face shield, ear plugs and leather gloves and apron. If you smell leather burning, it's time to go get stitchs. No on lookers with-in 25ft while cutting. Do NOT force the cutting, let the blade do the cutting while using two hands on the grinder.

T_Bone

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Dan Bear Kelley

02-09-2008 09:02:10

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Next project is 3/8 steel plate / bar in reply to T_Bone, 02-03-2008 20:51:56

Thank you for the tip on Sheetmetal. I remember something about that way back in the dusty part of my mind. Thank you for the reminder.

The next project will be using 3/8" bar/plate.

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Roy Suomi

02-03-2008 17:57:58

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

I've got a Do-all..Tag says made here..Not so sure of that..Looks identical to Taiwanni saws..Same cheapo gearbox as Taiwanni saw..I had to modify a shaft with a ball bearing welded to top cover..Was throwing blades off...

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El Toro

02-03-2008 16:42:44

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

We had a Do-All with a welder for making new blades. I think its still in the shop from where I retired. Hal

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Spook

02-03-2008 15:49:44

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

The best is probably either a DoAll or a Startrite. Lots of $$$ but you can make almost anything with one. Get one with a blade welder, you will need it.

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DickL

02-03-2008 15:58:33

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Spook, 02-03-2008 15:49:44

I have worked with a Do All and that is also a very good saw. We had different width blades and could cut circles/curves with the narrow blades. Never used a Startrite.

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Spook

02-04-2008 18:33:40

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to DickL, 02-03-2008 15:58:33

I don't know if they are still made, they looked like a DoAll, but were made in England, and sold by Powermatic, in the 60's and 70's.

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scott#2

02-03-2008 15:09:54

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

I have a 24 inch Grob, picked it up for $750, has lights, auto feed, blower and a welder. Real good, very heavy duty machine. I see them on ebay bringing around 700-1500 depending.

scott#2

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DickL

02-03-2008 14:29:50

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This Is One I have Always Wanted in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

You can set the stop and walk away. We end up cutting notches in thick plate with the mill. I have not had enough of that kind of cutting to justify another saw.

I have worked with them in other tool shops. Rollin has been around for a long time.

Rollin Saw

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DickL

02-03-2008 14:38:11

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This Might Have Been A Better in reply to DickL, 02-03-2008 14:29:50

This might have been a better web page. When I set up my tool shop in 1977 they were around 2500 bucks. If I had the use I would have one now.

Better Page Pix

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Gun guru

02-03-2008 13:56:52

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

Try Wilton, (they make a great horizontal metal bandsaw) I dont know if they make a vertical one though.

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the Unforgiven

02-03-2008 13:37:43

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 12:45:34

Ellis is usually very good.

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flying belgian

02-03-2008 14:02:39

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to the Unforgiven, 02-03-2008 13:37:43

Ellis is a very good saw but I don't think they make a vertical saw.

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BFO

02-03-2008 18:48:06

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Re: Metal cutting band saws - Recommendations? in reply to flying belgian, 02-03-2008 14:02:39

The Ellis saws are convertable, just pull the pin and flip it up..... .vwalla instant verticle

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Dan Bear Kelley

02-03-2008 19:32:37

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THANK YOU!!! in reply to BFO, 02-03-2008 18:48:06

THANK YOU!!! I'll program my e-bay to look for Grob, Ellis, Wilton, Rollin, DoAll and Startrite and see what fate rolls my way. Unfortunately, I only have single phase, but.... We'll see what happens.
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I appreciate most especially the little comments and tips y'all always include in your posts. Those are always VERY helpful.

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Gerald J.

02-05-2008 11:06:19

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Re: THANK YOU!!! in reply to Dan Bear Kelley, 02-03-2008 19:32:37

All the goodies that make a super wood cutting bandsaw work for steel except you want a much slower blade speed. I bought a Du-er wood saw with four rubber caster wheels in the box. I drive it with a speed reducing jack shaft in the belt drives. I'm thinking 100 fpm saw blade speed. Takes patience to cut thick stock with a fine toothed blade though.

Gerald J.

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Dan Bear Kelley

02-09-2008 08:48:22

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Slow is Good! in reply to Gerald J., 02-05-2008 11:06:19

Slow cutting is good! With the way I work, the slower something cuts, the less likely I'll screw up the part. I just want it to cut cleanly without a lot of additional work after the cut. I expect some file-work to dress the cut, deburr it, etc.

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