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Bill

08-08-2001 11:17:38




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I am thinking about getting a Auto dark welding helmet and see several different options and was wondering which would be better for a home shop using a mig welder.

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Bill




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MO

08-09-2001 11:36:03




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 Re: Auto dark welding helmet selection in reply to Bill, 08-08-2001 11:17:38  
Bill, I have two helmets, also - a speedglass and an Optrel. Both are great helmets and I would be happy with either one if that was what I was limited to. However, if I had to pick one of them, I would take the Optrel because it has several features that the Speedglass doesn't. The Optrel doesn't need a battery, and doesn't need to be turned on - it just always is. You can guess what happens everytime I use the Speedglass - I get flashed the first time!Anyway, my suggestion is that you get one with a variable intensity lens. Just because a 12 works for someone else, doesn't mean that a 10 would work better for you. Get a variable and never worry about it. Also, a bigger viewing area is a plus. And get a hood with the most adjustable headgear that you can find. Some, like my Optrel, have adjustments for how close to your face the mask fits, and at what angle the hood can be set at, which is handy for welding when looking straight down or up for overhead jobs. It happens more than you might think, and even a 5 minute job becomes miserable if your hood doesn't fit correctly or can't be adjusted to the correct position. Good Luck.
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Jerry

08-09-2001 05:28:27




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 Re: Auto dark welding helmet selection in reply to Bill, 08-08-2001 11:17:38  
I have two cheap versions I bought from Harbor Freight (two different models).

Both work great for us shade tree mechanic types. I've used them up to 45 minutes at a time without stopping much. There is difference in the head strap system, though. The cheaper one gives me a headache within minutes of putting it on, but the other is just fine.

One of man's best inventions!!!!



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ferrell freeman

08-09-2001 04:57:55




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 Re: Auto dark welding helmet selection in reply to Bill, 08-08-2001 11:17:38  
My, son who does a lot of TIG welding on power sub stations has two of the auto dark welding hoods, one for TIG and a 12or13 for regluar welding both of his are hard hat mounted .He,says he loves them .But when he comes home and doesnot have them with him ,tells me I,need to get one.



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George S. in the real NY

08-09-2001 03:27:26




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 Re: Auto dark welding helmet selection in reply to Bill, 08-08-2001 11:17:38  
Just read the comments about autodarkening helmets. Know one thing, use one once and you'll never go back to those old types. Makes doing equipment repair sooooo much easier. My tip is to get the largest viewing window you can get, as it is a big help when doing repair work especially in weird positions. I got a Jackson and am happy with it. Get one and then have fun arcin' an sparkin'..



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Cliff Neubauer

08-08-2001 19:36:31




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 Re: Auto dark welding helmet selection in reply to Bill, 08-08-2001 11:17:38  
I have a Jackson EQC Journeyman helmet which must be 4-5 years old, I've had it over three and I got it used. I am very happy with this helmet even though it isn't fancy. A bigger lens would be nice and if I wear this one out I think I will get a variable shade model for plasma cutter use. Mine is a shade 10 lens, I would want good shop lighting for anything darker. Once you get an auto darkening helmet you won't want to weld without one. I also suggest you pick up some extra clear lens covers because when they get a little dirty it's hard to see through them when the lens lightens up.

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Branden

08-08-2001 15:48:39




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 Re: Auto dark welding helmet selection in reply to Bill, 08-08-2001 11:17:38  
I own a Speedglas 9000X. The reason I went for the Speedglas over the other brands, was that is was a lot lighter. Nothing strainds my neck more than too heavy of a hood propped on top of my head. I noticed that my headaches and neckaches practically disappeared when I went to a lighter weight hood. I looked at the Huntsman, didn't like it. It was just an insert, required a regular hood for the insert, and took AAA batteries. That adds up, weight wise.

Branden

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Steve U.S. Alloys

08-08-2001 15:28:45




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 Re: Auto dark welding helmet selection in reply to Bill, 08-08-2001 11:17:38  
I can relate what some of my customers have said about those helmets, Bill.

1.People who wear bifocals opt for the larger lens. The small opening has you looking at plastic instead of thru the lense when you wear bifocals. Some welders have gone so far as to have the bifocal located in the top portion of their glasses.

2. The smaller lensed helmets are a bit lighter then the larger lensed units.

3. The narrower helmet designs allow for getting in close when working under machinery. The Jackson seems to be one of the narrower designs.

4. The length of the helmet is key when there is concern regarding neck and throat protection. The shorter styles can leave you with a welders sun burn if you go at it for long periods.

5. Auto helmets are limited within certain temperature extremes. Too hot and the liquid thins and won't provide adequate shielding. Too cold and the lense slows down resulting in slow switching speeds. These temp extremes should be listed on a warning label inside the unit.

6. Some of these helmets are not recommend for overhead welding. Protection is not adequate at that angle of view.

7. Some helmets require batteries and some do not. Be sure to get one that takes ordinary batteries if you go with a battery operated helmet.

8. The AWS recommends a #12 shade for MIG welding, aluminum welding with stick, stainless welding with stick, or when TIG welding. Many people use a #10 for short duration. Harmful ffects are often long term and some people are more sensitive to the IR/UV rays than others. Use your best judgement here.

9. The Jackson has what they call HTLS which is the 'high transmission light state'. I've got one and they really are nice when trying to grind or align parts. It's available on the low end EQC even. Those will sell for somewhere around $100.00 to $150.00 usually.

The best brands to compare in my opinion are the Selstrom, Optrel, Jackson, Huntsman, and Hornell. Probably any of the high end helmets are still going to be close to $300.00 in price. The high end helmets have whistles and bells that the occasional welder won't benefit from. You may want to compare the headgears as well. Some manufacturers use a better head gear than others. I probably left out something but the aforementioned items I have learned from years of selling those helmets. Hope it helps you out.

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