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OT:what would you do, re: purchase

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redtom

01-31-2008 18:02:36




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I'll be as quick as possible. Bought surplus equipment through work following appropriate rules of sale. Now another party says he was first in line for items because he told person in charge of selling he was interested, but actually he was not employed at place any more when sale occurs. Items are in plain view and even posted on line. I have bought the items and stand to make few bucks with resale after a little repair (that's the whole idea). He has no recourse against company because he just plain missed out, but he is appealing to me with sob story that I should sell him one item because they overlooked him. I'm not trying to be a jerk but doggone it I got there first. His beef is with the seller that overlooked him, not me. I feel its no different than an auction or any other sale, you snooze -you lose.

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Stan in Oly, WA

02-02-2008 10:01:42




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
Hi Tom,

I notice that all the replies you've received fall into one of two categories: 1) You owe the other guy nothing, period, or 2) You owe him nothing but you might consider doing something to make it a modified win/win situation rather than the win/lose situation it is now.

Since you did nothing wrong, I'm inclined to agree with those who suggest that you mainly think about how whatever you decide will make you feel in the long run.

You might consider the Golden Rule in this incident, what outcome you'd consider fair if the situation were reversed. You wouldn't expect a stranger to do you a favor that would cause him to take a loss, but you'd probably think highly of him if he came up with a fair way to get some balance back into a situation that you lost out on because of your (apparently mistaken) reliance on a third party.

If your description of the situation was that the other guy had come to you to say that the seller had let him down, that he knew you got the equipment fair and square but wondered if there was a way to work it out so that he didn't have to lose out completely, it wouldn't make him sound so bad. I can imagine myself in this guy's position---stating my disappointment, explaining why I felt that my actions had not been careless, making it clear that the other person had no responsibility to me but wondering whether he'd sell me a piece of equipment at a fair price. If he then told his friends that I had come to him with a sob story and asked him to do me a big favor, there's no doubt how that language would color the advice his friends gave him.

Only you are in a position to say whether this guy is a disappointed regular person, or a whiner and a blamer and a butthead, and only you can do anything to influence the outcome that will leave you with the memory of how the situation was resolved. It's good that this isn't a situation that has the potential to make or break you financially, so you really only have to be concerned with how you're going to feel about it in the future.

Good luck with it, Stan

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Charles (in GA)

02-01-2008 16:41:47




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
Other person has no beef, if he wanted them, he should have taken steps to insure he got the item.

As Rocky says, Money talks, BS walks, so true.

Offer if for sale at whatever you intended to ask for it. If he wants it, he will buy it. No different than Ebay, just that it is in person rather than over the internet.

Charles



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RobMD

02-01-2008 14:09:36




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
This reminds me of a time I bought a complete 3pt hitch for a 20/30 series deeres. I know I got it at a little lower than market value, so I am happy that this even happened. As I left the parts lay there at the auction, I had a whiner offer me only 40 bucks more for the 3pt that i've been looking for forever. I walked back there and got my 3pt and locked it in the pickup.



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Slowpoke

02-03-2008 01:01:44




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to RobMD, 02-01-2008 14:09:36  
Leaving items unprotected that you have won at an auction invites thieves and low lifes. I won a 36' extension ladder when Monkey Wards auctioned their store equipment. There were "guards" at the door who checked items against the buyer's list. I went to another building to get smaller things and when I returned for the ladder, it was gone. I complained to the "guards" and to the auction big shots to no avail because the sale papers said "buyer responsible for won items". Now I carry cables and locks.

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aFORDable

02-01-2008 07:34:36




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
He's a whiney butt. You owe him nothing. You can certainly sell him some or all of it, at your price though. He doesn't deserve pitty.



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NE IA

02-01-2008 06:58:51




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
The fact that you posted this tells me you are a good person at heart and want to do the right thing. I can tell you this, if you give most folks a above fair deal, someone else will get wind of you being a role model guy. You could be paid back ten fold, or you could get nothing.

I once was at a auction and they were within one item of a unit I realy wanted when the pager went off, auto accident. I did holler one bid before I got out of range, just could not wait for another. After returning to the sale I was offered by three different men a chance to purchase their items at their cost. Seems they seen me looking over the items in detail prior to the sale, I only knew one of the guys, the other two are my good friends now. Word had spread that I was a decent guy in a bad situation, and everyone had heard the pager go off in the small croud. That was four or five years ago, now if I'm at a auction and they bid on a item I stop. I now belong to a nice family of auction goers, and we can kind of sence if one of us wants a unit, the rest of us give them a break. I also always give in to the other bidder if the ring man and auctioneer get locked in on two different bidders for the same money. I sure sence that in my small comunity that the good words travel almost as fast as the bad words. If I EVER purchase a item at a auction and find out later that someone had a misfortune / wrong understanding, or the auctioneer made a error, and even a family / good friend related deal. I go right to the indavidual and offer the item at no mark up REGARDLESS of a real good deal or not. This is usualy related to a lack of going to sales, or a old age factor. We have perhaps the best well organized auction house in our parts, you can guess three hrs in advance within five munites when any item will sell. But some folks just don't understand auctions. Sometimes inbreeding has to be a factor perhaps.

I have had numerous chances to skin a widow of her goods / junk by giving her what she asked, thus trusting me. Trust is a big deal in the midwest. Those situations could tempt me to be a dishonest person. That would probably cost more in lost sleep, and could lead to not knowing right from wrong.

Your guy is no doubt a pretty big butt head to do anything more than point out a honest mistake or his poor decisions to not do a follow up. But then again it could have been no fault of his own. Will this getting rid of one item make or break you? Or will it matter twenty years from now? Compared to your self satisfaction of being the bigger man?

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Ohio D14

02-01-2008 17:17:01




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to NE IA, 02-01-2008 06:58:51  
I agree with you, although my first thought was to be like the majority.

Darn it, I have been trying to learn this lesson for 20 years, and sometimes I forget. I guess that is the trouble with being young, I hope it dosent take another 20.

I have seen great progress when one side is generous, but not a pushover.



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Jim in N M

02-01-2008 08:22:12




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to NE IA, 02-01-2008 06:58:51  
I would have him make you an offer,You know what you paid for it,You also know what it will be worth after you repair or (fix) it up. If his offer suits you sell sell it to him. If he won't pay your price at leist you did the right thing and can feel good about it...just my .02cents.... Jim in N M



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Spook

02-01-2008 05:47:11




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
I'd sell it to him. At a good profit. If he doesn't want to pay, too bad.



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Bob Huntress

02-01-2008 02:13:04




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
You stated that you intend to sell the item of concern at a reasonable profit. Have you considered making the individual an offer to sell this item for approximately what you would have sold it for when completed minus your anticipated investment yet to spend. If the item in question is a peice of equipment, which he intends to use for a commercial endeavor, he may wish to pay you your full price. Then he would be recieving a refurbished peice of equipment, and you would be certain of a sale. I doubt that I would sell it to him for the same price you paid, but it would profit both of you if he were giving some type of preference in your sale of the item. Noting that since he is still in contact with you, it may enough that there is an appearence that you are even interested in doing what is right to foster good will, while still not allowing him to walk over you with his somewhat dubious claim to the item.

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rockyhawaii

01-31-2008 22:17:45




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
Simply a case of "Money talked, BS walked."



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Tim B from MA

01-31-2008 21:08:19




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
It was his responsibility to make sure it was know that he was interested and was "there" (physically or figuratively)when the sale took place.

Don't worry about it - I agree with Charles, guy just sounds like a whiner.



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old

01-31-2008 20:31:06




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
I always believe first come first serve. If I'm selling some thing the first person with the cash is the one that gets it unless a deposit is put down on it and then they have X number of days to come up with the rest.



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Goose

01-31-2008 18:54:54




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
Plain old case of "If you snooze, you lose".



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charles(mo)

01-31-2008 18:14:00




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
I wouldn't even talk to him about it. He should just Man Up. Good grief, what a whiner.



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glennster

01-31-2008 18:09:26




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 Re: OT:what would you do, re: purchase in reply to redtom, 01-31-2008 18:02:36  
i agree with you. you were there, you bought it, its yours. kinda like when you buy something at an auction, then somebody wants it and says " if i knew it was gonna go for that, i would of bid on it" well ya dint, and i did, and its goin home with me.



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