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greygoat

01-30-2008 09:26:56




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So the President wants to send us all a tax
refund, or rebate, hoping we'll spend it to help
the economy.. How many, do you suppose, will
spend it on forign made goods? (Chinese?)




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TopCat in NC

01-30-2008 19:20:27




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
First; We should cut off ALL foreign aid to south America and Mexico until they do something to curb the flow of illegal aliens into the USA (it shouldn't take too long for them to take action when the cash flow stops) if they resist bring our troops back and fight there.

Second; the Soviet Union went broke fighting in Afghanistan and we want to follow suit in Iraq. Better home defense and quicker/harsher penalties for captured terrorists (think action like Turkey would take) telling the bleeding heart liberals to take a hike out of this country also would work.

Third; look at the new houses for sale and the price of them who can afford those and people getting adjustable rate loans and interest only loans just to be able to buy more house for curb appeal. Tax the he!! out of credit card companies and put a mandatory cap on interest rates for those accounts in place. (might drive them out of business)

This country cannot go on spending money like it's water and putting it on plastic it's getting so that a 10 year old can just about qualify for a credit card and when you get into trouble there are dozens of bankruptcy lawyers on tv just to help you out.

How long before we collapse under our own weight just like the roman empire did?

Thanks for letting me rant.
Dan

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dave guest

01-30-2008 18:21:47




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
Small local paper said this money is a cash advance on future tax refund. If you accept it and have no refund coming you will have to pay it back. Sounds like true to me. All ready I see on TV the amounts have been reduced to $500 single and $1000 joint.



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CH(upstate,NY)

01-30-2008 18:18:02




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
I want to buy a new 14" cabinate saw for my shop using my rebate for part of it. What is a good brand made in the USA?

In my opinion the rebates are like nose candy. Quick fixes are worthless.



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lumpie

01-30-2008 17:22:44




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
I'm gonna spend most of my rebate on booze and loose women. The rest I'll probably just spend foolishly.



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railhead

01-30-2008 23:33:48




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to lumpie, 01-30-2008 17:22:44  
I am with you except i will spend all mine on beer. women are the reason I am broke today. working 50 to 60 hours a week to support my two bad habits, beer and farming.



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jonjon

01-30-2008 17:01:56




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
Thought I was in the wrong forum for a second. Never heard of tax rebate brand tools. Have to try some where do you get them.



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JMS/.MN

01-30-2008 15:58:23




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
Not saying it is good or bad, but how soon some forget that is supported on both sides of the aisle, and each will try to work it to their advantage.



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PAGlenn

01-30-2008 14:32:24




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
sorry to say, don't hold your breath waiting for a reply



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trucker40

01-30-2008 13:25:35




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  

What would have been a proper response to 911?
War in Afghanistan.Never did see any reason for Iraq.Maybe we need to have our own war right in our country here,amongst ourselves,and then decide who we want to have a war with.Mexico is high on my list,then maybe Israel if they dont let up some. A lot of this is that there is not much way to tell who is the enemy.If they want to have a war they need to define who it is we are going to fight.What win or loose means.There needs to be a lot more communication instead of lies.As a matter of fact,the people supposedly running this country dont even act like they are from this country.Its like we have Europeans running our country like before the American Revolution.They want to tax you,but then use it to line their pockets,and not represent America,except this time the "country"is a corporation instead. You dont have to be smart to see whats going on.It probly wouldnt take much to stop it.Just find out who is voting against the country and for the corporation and throw them out,along with the bunch that claim they dont have to abide by any law,as the ones running things now do.Run the lobbiests out of WashingtonDC and keep them out with the military.After all that,we wont be in as much trouble.We might find out the biggest problem we need to take care of is right here in our own country. I know this,sitting around saying that its something to argue about is not going to make it better.The thing is the crooks count on us arguing about it,and fighting each other,instead of them.We can all fairly well see who the crooks are,its just dont fight over who are the crooks,but what do we do about them?

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Victor Diaz

01-30-2008 21:15:38




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to trucker40, 01-30-2008 13:25:35  
Mebe you gringo better should stay home to voted for Bush again hahaha Bush will close tha border so you gringo not come here to enjoy robuster ecomony



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old

01-30-2008 12:36:39




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
Be back up a little bit and not include ALL. Only those that have to file a tax claim will see any thing and those on limited income and draw S.S. will not see a dime



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TomTex

01-30-2008 15:39:25




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to Eldo case, 01-30-2008 12:16:03  
Right on. You got it right. Our local public hospital, John Petersmith, in Fort Worth is losing over 7 million dollars per year on the emergency room operation becsuse of illegal aliens using it as their primary care facility. Under USA law you cannot refuse to seen anyone who presents themselves to an emergency room and says they are in pain. The illegals (really criminals) just sit there and wait up to 20 hours to see a doctor. They pay nothing for their snotty nosed kids. All on us taxpayers. Smaller hospitals just close their emergency rooms, but the main county public hospital must keep their emergency room open by law. This cheap labor is a joke, we are paying dearly for it in every way. My brother worked in Houston for a survey company. One Mexican fellow had 3 social security cards, 3 Texas driver licenses, 3 photo IDs, filed 3 fedral income tax returns, got all taxes back on all 3, sent kids to public shcools, took special Spanish language classes, got free breakfasts, shared rent in a subsidized building with 4 other families, paid no property taxes. They can buy any card they need from other criminals. We, as American citizens, just dont seem to have the grit to clean up our own country. AND here we think we can rebuild Irackq (sp). Tom

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Gun guru

01-30-2008 12:49:27




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to Eldo case, 01-30-2008 12:16:03  
Well said. Bullets are far cheaper then handing out food.



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timcasbolt

01-30-2008 12:12:27




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
I, for one plan to spend any rebate money received on American made products. Not foreign products sold by American retailers, but products made here in the USA, by United States citizens working for US companies.

It won't be easy, but it'll be worth it. A quick google search shows that there are a lot of retailers that specialize in this. Also, home improvements are mostly made in the USA, although the materials needed might not be.

I encourage all US citizens to consider this possiblility. Think of how much we could stimulate our economy if all this money stayed here at home.

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RegularRog

01-30-2008 11:37:01




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
The worst part is, we will borrow the money for
these checks from China, so we can spend them at
walmart for Chinese goods. Whose economy are we
helping, anyway?



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IH2444

01-30-2008 09:57:23




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
I just heard on the news that the scammers are already working the rebate thing. Calling and acting like they are the IRS and wanting bank and personal info so they can direct deposit your rebate check for ya.



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Mike (WA)

01-30-2008 09:56:10




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
Well, I, for one, take seriously my responsibility as an American to use this windfall to help the American economy, stimulate growth and provide good, family-wage jobs. So I'm going to use my rebate to build a steel mill. LOL. Actually, to send a little message that what we need most is tax relief, I'm going to endorse that self-same check to the order of the U. S. Treasury, and send it in as a quarterly estimated tax payment. I expect they will reject it as a two party check, after which I can have a little fun with them ("So, you won't accept it? It's YOUR CHECK!!! Do you think it'll bounce? I'm sure glad I sent it to you if its gonna bounce- much better than getting in hot water with my bank. . .")

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TomTex

01-30-2008 09:37:46




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to greygoat, 01-30-2008 09:26:56  
This is just ole Bush doing some more deficit spending. He has a 7 year record of spending like a drunk sailor in a house of ill repute. Our entire military equipment line-up has been worn out in the desert sands and will have to be replaced/refurbished over the next decade. Think of the billions and billions just to replace the tanks/personel carriers, and other track equipment. Much of our stuff is so worn out they will just demolish it overseas, not even worth shipping home to a national guard unit for training. A whopping deficit is what you get when you cut taxes and then go on a warring spree. He should have created a special sur-tax on every american citizen to finance the war. Now with all the past 7 years of deficit spending, they are trying to bail out a faltering economy by incresing the deficit spending. What a load of BS. Tom

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cannonball

01-31-2008 04:53:19




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to TomTex, 01-30-2008 09:37:46  
Hey TT hope all on here know that we have a hundred plus acre EMBASSY IN IRAQ..Some building are 7 stories high...


MAY GOD BLESS THE USA



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David Snipes

01-30-2008 11:08:39




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to TomTex, 01-30-2008 09:37:46  
Well said, Tom! Our grandchildren will be paying for Bush's policies.



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duck1

01-30-2008 10:03:08




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to TomTex, 01-30-2008 09:37:46  
and with the manufacturing mostly overseas, even our own government will have to spend overseas to build our own military back up we don't need a tax refund we need JOBS!!! Bring the jobs and the service people BACK HOME!!! QUIT TRYINT TO SOLVE THE WORLD PROBLEMS AND SOLVE OUR OWN FIRST



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Balatonm

01-30-2008 11:25:39




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to duck1, 01-30-2008 10:03:08  
"QUIT TRYINT TO SOLVE THE WORLD PROBLEMS AND SOLVE OUR OWN FIRST"

Took the word wright out of my mouth.



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M. W. Mcintosh

01-30-2008 10:56:58




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 Re: Tax rebate ? in reply to duck1, 01-30-2008 10:03:08  
And you don't think 911 was a problem that we have to deal with? and you don't think something else will never happen just by quiting and coming home? That it all can be solved by just bringing our men and women home? This is our problem and there are no easy way out.



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bobi

01-30-2008 11:24:31




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  tax rebate in reply to M. W. Mcintosh, 01-30-2008 10:56:58  
No there is no easy way out but we shouldn,t be there in first place. secondly we will pass such a deficiet on to our grandkids to pay that we should be ashamed of ourselves. Third what if China or even Mexico want their money now, not a good picture



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ray_woods

01-30-2008 12:59:17




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 Re: tax rebate in reply to bobi, 01-30-2008 11:24:31  
Driving through my neck of the woods and then neighboring states. I'm shocked at the display of wealth size of homes. New construction thats taken place. Why the heck do we need this rebate?

White collar jobs lost? Folks can't work? If this ends up being a debt our children inherit..what a shame.

If I get a check. I'm enrolling in Spanish for the US consumer. Freaking challenging when you get into a communication barrier ordering at the NAPA counter. I'm learning to say 7.3Liter in Spanish, oil filter,fuel filter,air filter etc. Last week it was a ham club. Did not know I ordered that it was good and a change of pace and it came with fries. Never new they even sold fries at the deli.


Whatever happened to that bridge to Nowhere, Alaska?

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JerryU

01-30-2008 12:47:59




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 Re: tax rebate in reply to bobi, 01-30-2008 11:24:31  
Please don't take this wrong but you stated: "No there is no easy way out but we shouldn,t be there in first place." I will preface by saying I think our notion of what would happen was sadly mistaken. I work in the heart of the largest middle eastern population in the US and I believe the Feds grossly misjudged what the outcome was going to be. Clearly they did not understand the cultures they were dealing with.

That being said - my question, and I have not gotten an answer from quite a few pople I have asked is: "What would have been the proper response to 911?" During the previous administration we had embassies bombed and the USS Cole attacked and we chose non agression and the attacks continued. I personally think this is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" but would be curious what others think the proper respnose would be that would have successfully warded off future attacks.

JU

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bobi

01-30-2008 16:38:04




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 Re: tax rebate in reply to JerryU, 01-30-2008 12:47:59  
It wasn,t Iraq Sadam was bad but people are worse off now. Should have stayed in afaganstin and finished not go on to an endless war



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TomTex

01-30-2008 15:20:55




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 Re: tax rebate in reply to JerryU, 01-30-2008 12:47:59  
Porper response would have been to seal the Afganistan/Pakistan border, got Bin Laden, rebuilt Afganistan by burning all poppy fields, teaching them to farm, drill water wells, etc. We could have been sucessful by only concentrating on Afganistan, USA would have made a huge Bush statue and praised him. BUT, he went after ole Sadom to finish up his ole daddy's mess from Desert Storm. Sadom had absolutely NOTHING to do with 911, and Bush and Chaney knew it. 16 of 18 911 guys were from Saudi, and we didn't even slap them on the wrist, WHY, because ole man Bush still is on their payroll as an "energy marketing consultant". Tom

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JerryU

01-30-2008 17:34:13




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 Re: tax rebate in reply to TomTex, 01-30-2008 15:20:55  
I think there is some credibilty to oil being at the bottom of this, albeit not necessarily Iraqi oil. Poses the next question "would we not be better off pressing for energy independence in a rather short order? We have more than adequate resources with natural gas, coal, hydro, oil, and nuclear. We just find ways not to develop any system. If we truly were energy independent, I agree, this whole thing may have a differenct complexion.

JU

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steveormary

01-31-2008 02:15:57




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 Re: tax rebate in reply to JerryU, 01-30-2008 17:34:13  
Dont kid yourselves,this war in Iraq is not aboout oil, it is about religon.

steveormary



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